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grantcart

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21. Not so much pro life as declining population.

Mon Dec 27, 2021, 12:57 PM

Dec 2021

Germany, Japan, Italy and other developed countries are incentivizing reproduction in the face of declining population.

Modern democracies senior care and other social programs are dependent on significant trans generational financing ( this generation paying for a significant part of the current elderly benefits).

A declining population and an increasing average age of the worker creates an increasing future debt that is not sustainable.

One of the reasons that Germany accepted more than a million Syrian refugees.

Increasing longevity and inflation create additional pressures.

One of the reasons that we need the labor south of the border to join our work force.

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My daughters friend from Germany visited for Christmas [View all] maxrandb Dec 2021 OP

AMEN. Diamond_Dog Dec 2021 #1

it's called investing in humans NJCher Dec 2021 #2

It amazes me constantly XanaDUer2 Dec 2021 #3

Programming, my friend... successful programming. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 2021 #23

Exactly. Solly Mack Dec 2021 #31

This is one of the worst industrialized nations on the Planet. sarcasmo Dec 2021 #4

Never got over the "industrialized" part. jaxexpat Dec 2021 #8

That's ridiculous. Look for accurate and honest numbers. Hortensis Dec 2021 #25

+1 DashOneBravo Dec 2021 #51

As long DownriverDem Dec 2021 #5

Yup XanaDUer2 Dec 2021 #6

Now that is a mouth full. The Jungle 1 Dec 2021 #7

99% of the Right wing fwvinson Dec 2021 #9

You are somewhat correct The Jungle 1 Dec 2021 #10

I'm not sure they think they'll be rich... CaptainTruth Dec 2021 #12

I think it has more to do with racism - they're willing to be poor so long as the blacks and browns Rabrrrrrr Dec 2021 #19

Yes IbogaProject Dec 2021 #30

THIS! THIS! THIS! OMGWTF Dec 2021 #33

Yes! And yet they have the audacity to say that abortion rights are just liberals racism on blacks, Rabrrrrrr Dec 2021 #39

We must make it clear to the right that they are not Christians. The Jungle 1 Dec 2021 #44

Ahmaud Arbery The Jungle 1 Dec 2021 #42

Ask this question of someone on the right. The Jungle 1 Dec 2021 #43

If they really believed that everyone should be self-made, soldierant Dec 2021 #49

The trust fund babies contribute nothing. The Jungle 1 Dec 2021 #50

Well said. Rebl2 Dec 2021 #11

I've argued with right wingers thucythucy Dec 2021 #13

Yep, "fake news". Or in the case of statistics, "they're lying". oldsoftie Dec 2021 #14

When I lived in the Netherlands SoCalNative Dec 2021 #22

If I could live anywhere in the world, it would be Amsterdam. OMGWTF Dec 2021 #34

Were you working for a Dutch employer? DFW Dec 2021 #38

It was SoCalNative Dec 2021 #61

If it was an employer that was a local Dutch entity DFW Dec 2021 #62

Unbelievable, isn't it? smirkymonkey Dec 2021 #27

The ones who believe fake news (Foxsuckers, I call them) never believe the truth DFW Dec 2021 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author thucythucy Dec 2021 #57

My wife greatly enjoys her visits to the USA, but doesn't want to live there DFW Dec 2021 #59

K&R UCmeNdc Dec 2021 #15

That is the common Old Crank Dec 2021 #16

Perhaps Elon Musk who recently called for more babies should offer that kind of support to the ShazamIam Dec 2021 #17

That must be wonderful, and I agree bhikkhu Dec 2021 #18

We have friends who are old school conservatives GETPLANING Dec 2021 #20

My thirtysomething niece is living in Talin, Estonia and I don't think she's ever coming back. OMGWTF Dec 2021 #36

Not so much pro life as declining population. grantcart Dec 2021 #21

Revolutions in production and work are factors, but sure, Hortensis Dec 2021 #24

We could with Warren's modest billionaire tax grantcart Dec 2021 #58

Umhm. :) That and other big expenditures would also Hortensis Dec 2021 #60

Sweet ! Hulk Dec 2021 #26

K&R LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2021 #28

👍 Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #29

Paid maternity leave is one example of how Democrats are not taking advantage LiberalLovinLug Dec 2021 #32

Labor shortage is a great time for workers to bargain for better benefits IronLionZion Dec 2021 #35

We are barbaric in that regard... paleotn Dec 2021 #37

Man, I used to have this argument all the time in the US Navy maxrandb Dec 2021 #40

Amen! calimary Dec 2021 #41

My son had a German girlfriend keldridge Dec 2021 #45

We are abysmally behind and the right wants us to keep going down. Evolve Dammit Dec 2021 #46

My stepdaughter is German MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #48

And yet on DU we were told tonight it's more important for women Maru Kitteh Dec 2021 #52

*If* that's what was said, there's zero appreciation of work life balance or respect for parents... Violet_Crumble Dec 2021 #53

I have read some article saying that even people in jobs that offer paid leave don't always take it JI7 Dec 2021 #54

So, when I was in the Navy, a lot of Chief Petty Officers bragged about how much leave they had lost maxrandb Dec 2021 #55

my brother's company was bought by a german 1 + he got more vacation + i am sure more. i have been pansypoo53219 Dec 2021 #56