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Igel

(35,300 posts)
12. A few possibilities.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:10 PM
Mar 2022

One is to clear the territory. But even that was a side benefit.

When you have a "tribe" that's wedded to the land and fights as a unit, you dissolve the unit. Remove it from the land. They have less to fight for, and they're distributed. The Circassians were split up from the Caucasus by the Ottomans for this reason. Stalin did it, but he learned it from history--the Horde and the Ottomans did precisely the same thing.

Stalin moved the Tatars, not to relocate Russians in their place (even if that happened) but for the same reason FDR put West Coast) but not East Coast Japanese(-Americans) in camps. Get unreliable elements away from the front line. The Turks did something similar with Kurds and Syriac Xians.


In this case they also might be intending to use them as a kind of hostage in negotiations later.

It's also possible that Putin's going full-tilt abusive big brother. "I can't let the Russians stay. They'd be assimilated, and that's genocide! So we'll force them to stay Russian to preserve their cultural-ethnic purity." Remember--genocide of Russophones is one of the reasons given for this "special operation".

But I wouldn't rule out that he just wants a photo op. "Look at the grateful people. Yes, that's the Ukrainian hand gesture for 'we're #1!'" Or justification for the numbers--all the evacuees from Khar'kov, Mariupol have wanted (or at least 99% of them) to go back to that muthuh, Russia. At some point you need to have actual people to justify the 10s of thousands of those personally saved by their messiah Putin.

Kick for visibility Drum Mar 2022 #1
CNN also reporting this. AllyCat Mar 2022 #2
👍 Deuxcents Mar 2022 #8
That's kidnapping - will the world stand for this? Liberty Belle Mar 2022 #3
They're targeting civilians, and it's a major violation of international law Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #7
That was also Hitler's plan for the western Soviet Union... DemocraticPatriot Mar 2022 #30
I think he is doing it Bluesaph Mar 2022 #4
A few possibilities. Igel Mar 2022 #12
Hell the Americans did it to the First Nations. AllyCat Mar 2022 #15
Ok, yes, but not in the 21st century. lindysalsagal Mar 2022 #20
K & R. GP6971 Mar 2022 #5
What century is this? Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #6
This century is really shaping up to massively suck. Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #9
Yes. They'll either be jailed, "converted" or killed? Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #10
How much more of this fascist BS are we supposed to tolerate? BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #11
Putin taking lessons from China and the Uyghurs? keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #13
Following the footsteps of Stalin. Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #14
My god, what a nightmare PatSeg Mar 2022 #16
Horrifying. No words... chia Mar 2022 #17
And starving them.. pbmus Mar 2022 #18
It's starting to look like genocide. Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #19
The UN has to get involved somehow. I don't know enough to know exactly what, but lindysalsagal Mar 2022 #21
Guardian has it now too. AllyCat Mar 2022 #22
How do we rescue them? vercetti2021 Mar 2022 #23
Forcibly relocate people to camps to defeat Nazism IronLionZion Mar 2022 #24
Mariupol is a majority Russian-speaking city close to the Donbas lees1975 Mar 2022 #25
And so China says that this is NATO"S fault right...... turbinetree Mar 2022 #26
Is it time for NATO to step in yet? BigmanPigman Mar 2022 #27
Possible disinformation flamingdem Mar 2022 #28
They are witnesses to war crimes. roamer65 Mar 2022 #29
😡 This SCREAMS they need HELP!! Duppers Mar 2022 #31
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