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27. Fallacy. Argumentum Ad Hominem.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 01:18 PM
Mar 2022

Please note I am not the topic of this thread. A factual rebuttal addressing the topic would better support your argument.

Back on topic, the 5th Amendment is unequivocal: No person shall [...] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law. And again, reaffirmed in the 14th and codifying the states' obligations to adhere to this cornerstone of our legal system: nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

Now, let's address your straw man: The portion of the OP's argument to which I replied was the suggestion that criminal charges alone should be sufficient to invalidate an individual's constitutional rights: "people like Kira's ex could still be able to own firearms despite their domestic violence charges."

Charges are filed (theoretically) by prosecutors when they they think they have sufficient evidence that a crime has been committed. Yet you argue "A judge determining, based on sworn testimony..."

Not remotely the same thing.

Hence, penalty imposed based merely on a charge =/= due process. And to anybody who thinks that should constitute due process, well... again, careful what you wish for.

Republicans I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #1
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #16
Isn't murder and violence KT2000 Mar 2022 #2
Thats why I would feel no regret I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #3
Oh, dear lord. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2022 #4
Yes! KT2000 Mar 2022 #5
That's a great point Johnny2X2X Mar 2022 #11
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #17
And toxic I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #21
What in the world does "LGBT stuff" have to do wirth it? And, stop blaming victtims obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #33
Didn't mean to say anything offensive. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2022 #34
How do you address it? maxsolomon Mar 2022 #6
Tony Soprano would know how to resolve this situation if his daughter was the victim. nt albacore Mar 2022 #7
How many of us have a Tony Soprano in our corner? Jilly_in_VA Mar 2022 #9
He's lucky she didn't end him with one of his own weapons. gldstwmn Mar 2022 #8
Should preclude half this country from owning one Jilly_in_VA Mar 2022 #10
All of the Russian money that gldstwmn Mar 2022 #12
What is the loophole? DVRacer Mar 2022 #13
Well maybe it's because she's the girlfriend, not the wife FakeNoose Mar 2022 #18
Financial abuse I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #22
I learned in my mispent youth...marrying an abusive man-child in my teens that...you Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #14
Yeah Jilly_in_VA Mar 2022 #19
Just Charges? Bow To The Robots Mar 2022 #15
So all the Jan 6 rioters should be on the streets? dpibel Mar 2022 #24
Again, careful what you wish for. Bow To The Robots Mar 2022 #25
I see no evidence dpibel Mar 2022 #26
Fallacy. Argumentum Ad Hominem. Bow To The Robots Mar 2022 #27
Temporary or permanent? Reviewable? dpibel Mar 2022 #28
I'm still not the topic. Bow To The Robots Mar 2022 #29
I'm fascinated dpibel Mar 2022 #35
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2022 #20
These fuckers will get guns, I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #23
I agree. H2O Man Mar 2022 #32
Any felony... Bow To The Robots Mar 2022 #30
Yet not all H2O Man Mar 2022 #31
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