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krispos42

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49. Not in the Black Sea

Wed Apr 13, 2022, 11:10 PM

Apr 2022

Turkey closed the straights that let Russia access the Black Sea from the Mediterranian and thus the rest of the world's oceans. Whatever they have in the Black Sea and whatever they can build there is all they have for the duration of the war.

This is a fairly big deal!

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What sinking the Russian flagship means: [View all] Tomconroy Apr 2022 OP

Slava Ukraine! onecaliberal Apr 2022 #1

Heroiam Slava! TygrBright Apr 2022 #7

❤️🌻🇺🇦 onecaliberal Apr 2022 #9

Although this will ForgedCrank Apr 2022 #2

Was she in fact sunk? Stinky The Clown Apr 2022 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Apr 2022 #6

Did the Cruiser sink? Chainfire Apr 2022 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Apr 2022 #5

. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #8

Yes. They abandoned the ship. That only happens if it's likely to sink. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #11

Evil grin. Igel Apr 2022 #12

Schadenfreude! anamnua Apr 2022 #25

K&R UTUSN Apr 2022 #10

I wonder if this would enable Mariupol air drops. Gore1FL Apr 2022 #13

I don't really know anything but it sounds like Russia Tomconroy Apr 2022 #15

Well, conventionally most of those ships aren't very vulnerable relayerbob Apr 2022 #47

Reports are that it's sending out Morse code distress signals. roamer65 Apr 2022 #14

I see it differently... WarGamer Apr 2022 #16

You have to have air supremacy to invade from the sea. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #17

So? WarGamer Apr 2022 #18

They already tried to take Odessa and failed. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #19

They never made a serious thrust at Odessa... or Kiev?? WarGamer Apr 2022 #21

Aren't you the guy who told me they were going to take Maripoul Tomconroy Apr 2022 #23

as far as we know... WarGamer Apr 2022 #24

Good thing you're an Armchair general. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #26

as are you... as are all of us WarGamer Apr 2022 #27

I'm an Armchair GI. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #29

BTW France24 reporting 1026 Ukrainian Marines have surrendered in Mariupol (according to Russia MOD) WarGamer Apr 2022 #51

Some surrendered. The video is supposed to show about 100. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #52

Going to be difficult to get Azov out... WarGamer Apr 2022 #53

UPDATE 3-Russia says ammunition blast damages flagship of Black Sea fleet - Interfax Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2022 #20

How many more do they have Johnny2X2X Apr 2022 #22

They have two more of this class. I suspect they have more cruisers than that. Gore1FL Apr 2022 #37

I believe Turkey has closed the straits to the Black Sea so they can't bring in reinforcements. Angleae Apr 2022 #40

Not in the Black Sea krispos42 Apr 2022 #49

+1, uponit7771 Apr 2022 #59

This quote!!!!!!!!!!! LOL Takket Apr 2022 #28

+1!!! kind of embarrassing actually...nt mitch96 Apr 2022 #32

+1 2naSalit Apr 2022 #38

FWIW. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #30

It means what honest military planners have known for twenty years or more Strelnikov_ Apr 2022 #31

"Navy's surface fleet of 'attack' ships is idiotic" ahh but we have to keep the mitch96 Apr 2022 #35

I know kids who work at China Lake gaskinite Apr 2022 #41

Yes, but a lot less than a cruiser relayerbob Apr 2022 #43

In shallow waters, maybe krispos42 Apr 2022 #50

Russia has many subs with different capabilities. nt PufPuf23 Apr 2022 #58

+1, uponit7771 Apr 2022 #60

You don't understand Putin iemanja Apr 2022 #33

He's afraid of dying from a germ. He ain't going nuclear. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #36

... Nevilledog Apr 2022 #34

Absolutely beautiful ... Glory to Ukraine!!! 🌻🇺🇦🌻💕 nt Raine Apr 2022 #39

They have other ships with SAMs and certainly have them in Sevastopol relayerbob Apr 2022 #42

I think the TB2 he mentions is an armed drone. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #44

Understood relayerbob Apr 2022 #48

I'm not going to officially post it because it's not confirmed Tomconroy Apr 2022 #54

Glad to hear that. Looking forward to Kherson falling relayerbob Apr 2022 #56

Slava Ukraini! Thank you, Goddess. fierywoman Apr 2022 #45

"impending Ukrainian push out of Kherson" ColinC Apr 2022 #46

There's video out there of an enormous explosion and a Tomconroy Apr 2022 #55

All I know is.. ColinC Apr 2022 #57