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ColinC

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13. Question: have you ever had a candid conversation with a SpaceX employee?

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Sat Apr 30, 2022, 07:46 PM

Apr 2022

Their success comes despite Musk's horrible management, not because of it.

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Ukrainian soldier says Elon Musk's Starlink satellites 'changed the war in Ukraine's favor' [View all] EX500rider Apr 2022 OP

This is awesome!! Lunabell Apr 2022 #1

Musk is a un-American fascist pos. rockfordfile Apr 2022 #28

Yep Lunabell Apr 2022 #34

So he's a Putin supporter but is helping Ukraine fight off Russia? EX500rider Apr 2022 #38

I don't know honestly if he is a Putin supporter however if he is cstanleytech Apr 2022 #40

Really? EX500rider Apr 2022 #41

Yes it could simple as that. Weirder things have happened such cstanleytech Apr 2022 #45

Yes a Simpsons episode is just like helping Ukraine's military in a war with Russia... EX500rider Apr 2022 #53

I used that as a example of wierd things that can happen but I am baffled cstanleytech Apr 2022 #56

No just saying there's no way they don't know they're helping the Ukrainian military EX500rider Apr 2022 #57

Of course they know if it's happening but foreseeing it ahead of time? I doubt it. cstanleytech May 2022 #60

You do know starling was sent AFTER the invasion right? NotTodayPutin May 2022 #74

Sure however that does mean that the Ukraine military using it could have been foreseen. cstanleytech May 2022 #76

"does mean that the Ukraine military using it could have been foreseen." EX500rider May 2022 #90

Musk doesn't give a rat's ass about Ukraine rockfordfile Apr 2022 #51

So he donated the Starlink service why exactly? EX500rider Apr 2022 #52

Musk is giving with one hand and being un-American fascist pos with the other rockfordfile Apr 2022 #54

Musk may indeed be all of these things, or LuckyCharms May 2022 #91

An independent citizen that's done more for Ukraine Igirl May 2022 #95

I'll give credit where credit's due NBachers Apr 2022 #2

...to all of the overworked SpaceX employees that engineered, built and manufactured these ColinC Apr 2022 #4

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Why is giving credit to the people who developed and built a device ColinC Apr 2022 #8

Does musk deserve any credit? Nt USALiberal Apr 2022 #9

Virtually none. ColinC Apr 2022 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author USALiberal Apr 2022 #12

Question: have you ever had a candid conversation with a SpaceX employee? ColinC Apr 2022 #13

They are welcome to quit. That's what people do when they hate their jobs. USALiberal Apr 2022 #15

They do. Just look at the NLRB complaints and turnover rates of his companies.. ColinC May 2022 #59

Are you saying no one wants to work for Musk? Hoyt Apr 2022 #16

Not at all. But I would imagine he would get better results if they were not burned out ColinC May 2022 #58

Most of the engineers, etc., likely don't feel burnout. Bet they are humming, Hoyt May 2022 #62

Have you spoken with any? ColinC May 2022 #64

There is not a large company -- even ones favored by Dems -- that doesn't have Hoyt May 2022 #65

The companyis currently being sued by the state of California for racism ColinC May 2022 #66

Bet they have a long waiting list of Democrats who would love to work for Musk. Hoyt May 2022 #67

Still doesn't change the evidence that it is likely a shitty place to work for. ColinC May 2022 #69

Nor is there another large company that's done as much Igirl May 2022 #97

Yep, "Elon bad" seems to be the meme of the week. Hoyt May 2022 #98

He's always sucked. ColinC May 2022 #100

The people waiting for a chance to work for his companies don't bear that out. Hoyt May 2022 #101

The people leaving for better companies, do. ColinC May 2022 #107

What exactly are those better companies? Hoyt May 2022 #110

Literally any other major defense contractor. ColinC May 2022 #117

Boeing has lot of employee complaints. Plus, Musk gets points for not being heavily into bombs, etc. Hoyt May 2022 #118

Boeing has lots more employees. Per Capita, they have far less complaints. ColinC May 2022 #119

Love how we've turned to supporting military spending to further hate on Musk. Hoyt May 2022 #123

Not hating. Just acknowledging how defense companies do better ColinC May 2022 #124

I disagree. I think the companies that make the javelins, etc have done far more ColinC May 2022 #99

Now, you are supporting Raytheon & Lockheed Martin to get at Musk. Jeeeeez. Hoyt May 2022 #102

Do you deny they have built the basic weaponry for Ukraine to defend themselves? ColinC May 2022 #104

I don't care. Zelensky: "I'm grateful to him [Musk] for supporting Ukraine with words and deeds." Hoyt May 2022 #108

Cool. What has he said about weapons? ColinC May 2022 #109

The drones are basically useless without a sat link back to the user. EX500rider May 2022 #111

And the satellite links are useless without weapons to protect them. ColinC May 2022 #112

the profiteering MIC? WarGamer May 2022 #103

Cannot deny that. I also cannot deny they have helped Ukraine substantially ColinC May 2022 #106

the MIC doesn't load boats with weapons for free... WarGamer May 2022 #127

I like the idea of not needing it entirely ColinC May 2022 #128

High rankings manicdem May 2022 #83

Just read this story about him. I worked in a situation like this once and loved every minute. Hoyt May 2022 #113

Agree with Colin C. AllyCat Apr 2022 #19

"Taxpayers bought the comm system." EX500rider Apr 2022 #55

SpaceX originally claimed the US gave them nothing. That was a lie. ColinC May 2022 #61

Orginally they didn't Sgent May 2022 #77

Not true. The entire charge of shipping was covered by the government ColinC May 2022 #78

There is no "retail" version sold Sgent May 2022 #79

Again. Not true. ColinC May 2022 #80

The systems cost a lot more than that. manicdem May 2022 #81

Great. I hope that's true. Just feel Musk loves to toot his own horn AllyCat May 2022 #70

And yet, he quitely donated $5.7 B recently, didn't toot his horn, and people still bashed him. Hoyt May 2022 #115

Yet still pays nearly 0 taxes. Donations don't compare to his fair share of taxes he has avoided. ColinC May 2022 #120

Actually, he paid $11 billion in taxes recently. That was before selling Hoyt May 2022 #121

Less than 5% in taxes ColinC May 2022 #125

Colin, you can start a company and get the same breaks as Musk for amortizing startup expenses, Hoyt May 2022 #129

Or people can just start paying their fair share in taxes to begin with ColinC May 2022 #132

...if my dad owned an emerald mine in apartheid south africa ColinC May 2022 #135

What did his dad's money have to do with anything? EX500rider May 2022 #138

Trying to tell a random lower middle class person that they have the same ooportunities ColinC May 2022 #139

Who says his dad was a billionaire? EX500rider May 2022 #140

5% of what? You don't pay taxes on your total wealth every year but on income nt EX500rider May 2022 #133

Most people actually do pay based on nearly their total wealth ColinC May 2022 #134

Musk is paying the highest tax bill ever paid by a individual for last year $11 billion EX500rider May 2022 #122

That highlights a larger problem. It doesn't actually make Musk honorable. ColinC May 2022 #131

The government paid about 3X the retail price for the systems. ColinC May 2022 #71

The question should be if the Us govt had not stepped up and paid would musk have acted anyway? PortTack Apr 2022 #25

Not to mention.... SergeStorms Apr 2022 #30

What makes you think the govt paid for them all? EX500rider Apr 2022 #35

The question remains. ColinC May 2022 #63

I don't agree with your assessment of the WaPo article PortTack May 2022 #92

By "my assessment" you mean my direct quote from the article? nt EX500rider May 2022 #94

This PortTack May 2022 #96

No, a terminal costs a lot more but Starlink sells them at a big discount when you sign up for 3 yrs EX500rider May 2022 #105

Okay so their website says the cost is $600? Very curious. If the cost is really $1500 PortTack May 2022 #116

It wasn't just the US, according to news reports, it was MerryBlooms May 2022 #126

Actually they did gift most of them. EX500rider Apr 2022 #39

Starlink dishes are sold at 500 a piece ColinC May 2022 #68

Kits cost more manicdem May 2022 #82

Trump is on Russia's side along with most of the GOP. blm Apr 2022 #3

"... on Russia's side along with most of the GOP." EX500rider Apr 2022 #36

I still don't trust Musk Pachamama Apr 2022 #5

So, NASA was stupid to hire him?? Nt USALiberal Apr 2022 #10

There was a thread on that too bashing NASA for using contractors, not Hoyt Apr 2022 #18

NASA was ENTIRELY contractors localroger Apr 2022 #47

Most government contractors are half decent ColinC May 2022 #73

The Russian generals are probably pulling their hair out. lpbk2713 Apr 2022 #6

the ones that are still alive.... bahboo Apr 2022 #14

+1 Celerity May 2022 #75

Now, that's not fitting with the general tenor. Hoyt Apr 2022 #17

Well, I at least give him credit for that. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #20

Musk seems like he has a split personality. nycbos Apr 2022 #21

The technology definitely did a solid for Ukraine but its wasn't given away, it was purchased by yaesu Apr 2022 #22

Supposed silver lining for Dem Elon fanboys greenjar_01 Apr 2022 #23

Well that's cheering! nt LAS14 Apr 2022 #24

Credit orangecrush Apr 2022 #26

Musk should buy some Fighter Jets for the Ukrainians, instead amuse bouche Apr 2022 #27

Reliable communications and internet EX500rider Apr 2022 #33

My point was the grotesque waste of money on buying twitter amuse bouche Apr 2022 #44

How exactly did he benefit from apartheid? EX500rider Apr 2022 #46

He does some good things. He's a mixed bag. Wingus Dingus Apr 2022 #29

Not Wise To Publish This DallasNE Apr 2022 #31

Russia has already been trying to hack Starlink EX500rider Apr 2022 #37

That's often to the case. Igel Apr 2022 #43

Exactly! Nt ecstatic May 2022 #137

Well, Musk Is A Little Less of a Jerk Deep State Witch Apr 2022 #32

More supervillains should do good things IronLionZion Apr 2022 #42

The ones he promised were free but the US paid for instead ? SoonerPride Apr 2022 #48

Don't think so: EX500rider Apr 2022 #49

Kudos to you for putting forth logic and reason vs. unsupported, emotional drivel. Abolishinist May 2022 #72

Next he'll take credit for the sun rising. dalton99a Apr 2022 #50

I'm thinking some USA and NATO 48656c6c6f20 May 2022 #84

No not really EX500rider May 2022 #87

It works like this: EX500rider May 2022 #88

Yeah think 48656c6c6f20 May 2022 #89

"Radio Shack" stuff? EX500rider May 2022 #114

Hope he doesn't decide to use them against democracy in a fit of pique next time (Nt) FreepFryer May 2022 #85

k&r BSdetect May 2022 #86

Musk supporting freedom for Ukraine is good. His freedom of speech position is problematic andym May 2022 #93

Musk isn't pro Putin. DemocratSinceBirth May 2022 #130

A very good thing! 👍nt Raine May 2022 #136