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Tommy Carcetti

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38. Even in the tiny "Republic of South Florida"...

Fri May 20, 2022, 03:26 PM

May 2022

...I'm sure the redder areas of Fort Myers and Naples won't want to be lumped in with Palm Beach, Broward or Dade.

And upstate, you'd have blue Tallahassee and Gainesville, not to mention the urban centers of Tampa, Orlando and Jacksonville not wanting to be part of the red.

There's no neat line for any of it.

And frankly people who want to encourage some sort of artificial schism aren't doing us any favors.

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It Is Really Too Bad The "United" States Can't Be Split [View all] SoCalDavidS May 2022 OP

Splitting up the US would be a grave mistake. Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #1

Mistake Or Not, We Can't Coexist With The Other Side Anymore SoCalDavidS May 2022 #2

The concept of United is gone. Over and over again the division is stark with no signs of RKP5637 May 2022 #4

A lot of people across the spectrum were suggesting a return to civics... keep_left May 2022 #12

except that no-one on the right is actually in favor of education jcgoldie May 2022 #13

Touche. keep_left May 2022 #18

I agree. smirkymonkey May 2022 #67

If you think the housing situation is tight now DFW May 2022 #77

Well if the moved now to Wyoming, Idaho, Dakotas Tree Lady May 2022 #80

Need some more global warming first LOL DFW May 2022 #85

I know my kids in San Antonio Tree Lady May 2022 #96

It's a Russian fantasy that the U.S.A. suffer the same fate as the Soviet Union. hunter May 2022 #79

And they are still at it. Look at this thread, where the whole stupid idea is playing out again... Hekate May 2022 #84

I fear that well might be the only solution, eventually. I see really nothing bridging the gap. And RKP5637 May 2022 #3

They'd invade within a year Johnny2X2X May 2022 #5

This. CrispyQ May 2022 #9

Even if they didn't invade MadameButterfly May 2022 #11

they'd have to MissMillie May 2022 #14

Exactly what I was thinking. We'd be looking at the Berlin wall in Illinois. lindysalsagal May 2022 #72

at 74 llashram May 2022 #6

This!! 66 here NewHendoLib May 2022 #8

Yup, 68 here. Karma13612 May 2022 #91

I agree llashram May 2022 #93

I'd be fine being a citizen of Cascadia. Binkie The Clown May 2022 #7

Me too! Aristus May 2022 #42

It will split - it is inevitable jg10003 May 2022 #10

The only problem (well, not the only one) with that map is that many of those "provinces"... keep_left May 2022 #15

the map is an illustration of the consequences of jg10003 May 2022 #21

There are a LOT of purple and red Karma13612 May 2022 #92

Exactly TheRealNorth May 2022 #25

Even in the tiny "Republic of South Florida"... Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #38

Either way will lead to non-debatable civil war. The Grand Illuminist May 2022 #16

farmers need to sell their crops. jg10003 May 2022 #22

There's just no way that map communicates anything. Calista241 May 2022 #29

The map isn't meant to be taken literally jg10003 May 2022 #33

Pacifica is ridiculous ripcord May 2022 #43

Balderdash Hekate May 2022 #86

No split possible. Not in Constitution. A Dreamer's Dream. but wait..................... Stuart G May 2022 #89

I support the union TheProle May 2022 #17

Climate change will take care of that. asa4ever May 2022 #19

The Southern US will be nearly uninhabitable in 30 years. roamer65 May 2022 #46

Major population shifts around the world are going to be a big problem. asa4ever May 2022 #53

I think New England, New York, Michigan, etc will be Canadian provinces by that point. roamer65 May 2022 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore May 2022 #20

The fuckers can have FL TheRealNorth May 2022 #26

Well, then the moose can have Minnesota. nt Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #37

We like the Moose TheRealNorth May 2022 #41

Correction: Moose and Squirrel. nt Binkie The Clown May 2022 #56

100? CrackityJones75 May 2022 #40

Another 10 years and the FL property panic will happen. roamer65 May 2022 #48

Texas liberal here. TheProle May 2022 #52

This FL liberal thanks you! mcar May 2022 #59

Solidarity TheProle May 2022 #61

There is a certain elite that finds it more convenient to deny we exist DFW May 2022 #78

Molly Ivins. Anne Richards. I like your list -- a lot of my favorite she-roes are Texans. Hekate May 2022 #82

I should have added Ann Richards and Molly Ivins for sure DFW May 2022 #87

Don't forget Jim Hightower! Texasgal May 2022 #94

A list conveniently ignored by some who prefer a stereotype DFW May 2022 #95

Keep it up my two kids in San Antonio Tree Lady May 2022 #81

No need to split the country if a fascist dictator is elected pres. nt Hotler May 2022 #70

Since the USSR split sarisataka May 2022 #23

I hate this subject. Calista241 May 2022 #24

I am also against the U.S splitting up. But I don't see how it can be avoided unless jg10003 May 2022 #27

One complicating factor is that Work From Home is the new standard Calista241 May 2022 #30

I know. Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #36

Unfortunately it's not governable anymore. That is the issue. BannonsLiver May 2022 #55

It's not even remotely close to 98% opposed Polybius May 2022 #76

There's a lot to hate. As another poster pointed out: this is a Russian propaganda wet-dream... Hekate May 2022 #90

It's truly scary that they are cozying up to a racist autocrat like Viktor Orban. Initech May 2022 #28

And they're trying to keep the press out of the CPAC conference. keep_left May 2022 #32

Not this again Hekate May 2022 #31

I don't typical entertain these types of posts Tickle May 2022 #34

The major problem I see even if there were some feasible way to effect a geographical split: Efilroft Sul May 2022 #35

I totally ageee. Nt raccoon May 2022 #39

It can be split. roamer65 May 2022 #44

That suggestion is totally unworkable FakeNoose May 2022 #45

Usually what happens is very similar to Partition Day, 1947. roamer65 May 2022 #47

It would NEVER happen here FakeNoose May 2022 #49

Very well could happen here. roamer65 May 2022 #50

With gerrymandering, voter disenfranchisement and the Right Wing court.. Noahv May 2022 #51

This is why we'd have been better off losing the Revolutionary War BannonsLiver May 2022 #54

I live in the UK and even under the Tories... róisín_dubh May 2022 #71

This again? mcar May 2022 #57

Word mahina May 2022 #69

How would we divvy up the nukes? Tom Kitten May 2022 #58

I wish the US would break up. I don't want to live in the same Marius25 May 2022 #60

How do you propose it happen? mcar May 2022 #62

I have a plan Marius25 May 2022 #63

That would be a shitshow. nt Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #66

Yup, but still necessary imo. Marius25 May 2022 #68

Pakistan and India broke apart by agreement, and blood flowed in the streets ... Hekate May 2022 #83

if we could only bdamomma May 2022 #74

Russia would be escatic. LiberalFighter May 2022 #65

of course bdamomma May 2022 #75

The alternative to the impossible split is the almost guaranteed fascist rule Blaukraut May 2022 #73

How would you split it? BlackSkimmer May 2022 #88

Good question. It always comes down to maps created for fantasy & science fiction novels. Hekate May 2022 #97