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Nevilledog

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Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:08 PM Sep 2022

Stacey Abrams Corrected Abortion Misinformation, and Republicans Lost Their Minds [View all]

https://jezebel.com/stacey-abrams-corrected-abortion-misinformation-and-re-1849569712

On a panel this week in Atlanta, Georgia Democratic gubernatorial nominee Stacey Abrams fact-checked the popular anti-abortion claim that a fetus has a heartbeat at six weeks of pregnancy. Conservatives call their bills banning abortion after that point “heartbeat bans,” and plenty of media outlets still use the term, even though it’s medically incorrect.

“There is no such thing as a heartbeat at six weeks,” Abrams said. “It is a manufactured sound designed to convince people that men have the right to take control of a woman’s body away from her.”

Conservatives, of course, immediately lost their shit, with Fox’s Will Cain calling the statement “QAnon-plus level.”




But Abrams is correct that there’s no real heartbeat that early in pregnancy. Not only do six-week embryos not have hearts, but the sound of pulsing cells that will eventually become a heart “is created by the [ultrasound] machine itself, which translates the waves of electrical activity into something audible,” per the New York Times. It is, really and truly, a manufactured sound.

The sound wasn’t invented for the purpose of controlling people’s bodies, but anti-abortion advocates certainly use it for that purpose now. The crusade started with laws that mandate pre-abortion ultrasounds and continued with crisis pregnancy centers that prey on women who are pregnant and scared, before later morphing into a campaign to pass “heartbeat” bills.

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OK, let's see an ultrasound picture of a heart on a six week old fetus Walleye Sep 2022 #1
Inconvenient SheltieLover Sep 2022 #3
it isn't even a foetus at 6 weeks, it is still an embryo, it's at 8 weeks when it becomes a foetus Celerity Sep 2022 #10
The whole Republican Party has lost their fucking mind Walleye Sep 2022 #11
How dare a woooman of color contradict their lies! SheltieLover Sep 2022 #2
How dare any woman have an opinion about what she can do with her own body! Lonestarblue Sep 2022 #13
Okay I did NOT know that underpants Sep 2022 #4
Me, either. I'm glad Ms Abrams set the facts Deuxcents Sep 2022 #6
Me neither, at least the "heartbeat" sound part gratuitous Sep 2022 #7
Yeah I just took that as I was told. underpants Sep 2022 #8
I suspect if you had thought about it soldierant Sep 2022 #22
Surely there will be legitimate tv news reporting on this. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #5
That right there is the reason she should be governor of GA. She will govern by facts, ancianita Sep 2022 #9
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Sep 2022 #12
While she is correct...I don't care if one is heard at 5 months. Irrelevant. JanMichael Sep 2022 #14
Yep. A herring by any other name would still be as red. dchill Sep 2022 #20
I used to tell the woman-hating gestational slavers protesting at our local Planned niyad Sep 2022 #15
Thanks for doing this -- BlueSky3 Sep 2022 #37
That was one of my somewhat "polite" responses. For a time, several friends niyad Sep 2022 #38
My preference would have been for her to have stopped after Ilsa Sep 2022 #16
I still draw the line at whatever # of weeks Chuck Grassley is....+1. Brainfodder Sep 2022 #17
As good a place as any for the line. dchill Sep 2022 #21
Hehe Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #26
Whenever I hear or read the phrase "Republicans lost their minds..." BobTheSubgenius Sep 2022 #18
👍 underpants Sep 2022 #25
Yet, they always find a deeper low. tdrake Sep 2022 #30
"It is, really and truly, a manufactured sound." dchill Sep 2022 #19
Ba-dum-dum. Tsss! Beartracks Sep 2022 #24
So many Republican policies are based on some ignorant thing they convince themselves is true. n/t Beartracks Sep 2022 #23
Thank you, Stacey! Kath2 Sep 2022 #27
I cannot wait to vote for Stacey Abrams. crickets Sep 2022 #28
So, this discussion has taught me 2 things Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #29
K&R betsuni Sep 2022 #31
Heart beat no heart beat. Still remains NO ONE ELSE'S BUSINESS. NONE. NADA. LakeArenal Sep 2022 #32
I love Stacey Abrams. love_katz Sep 2022 #33
I still don't know what the point was in manufacturing that sound. TreasonousBastard Sep 2022 #34
FYI: Atticus Sep 2022 #35
So, when FQX's Will Cain says "QAnon-plus level." KS Toronado Sep 2022 #36
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