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13. Eli is acting like a fool.

Thu Jan 12, 2023, 02:44 PM

Jan 2023

I'm really embarrassed for him. Why shouldn't the DOJ appoint a special prosecutor? If they did for Trump - how can they justify not doing it for Biden? I don't care if Biden handed over the documents and was pro-active. He still had them at multiple locations, including his garage, house and old campus office. If it's a problem for Trump to store classified documents at Mar-a-Largo, it's a problem for Biden. Trump lying about it was only part of the problem, the more egregious was what he was actually doing with those documents.

Just because we like Biden doesn't mean he's above the law here. It's speedy just as it was fairly speedy once Mar-a-Largo was searched by the FBI. Once it became public, and that one investigating recommended a special prosecutor, Garland had little choice. And it would be ridiculous for him to not move when he announced one for Trump back in November. It absolutely would delegitimize the investigation into Trump.

Anyway, now Eli can match how ridiculous he looks whenever he's on TV with how ridiculous he sounds.

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Elie Mystal is destroying Merrick Garland [View all] News Junkie Jan 2023 OP

Seems Like Elie Has Seen Some Of The "Just Be Patient" Posters On DU nt SoCalDavidS Jan 2023 #1

The Just-Be-Patient Crew is all over Twitter. SMC22307 Jan 2023 #230

What a piece of shit. tritsofme Jan 2023 #2

You prefer Garland to Biden? iemanja Jan 2023 #6

Garland serves at the pleasure of the president. tritsofme Jan 2023 #11

Biden can't fire him now iemanja Jan 2023 #14

"Dragged his feet" brooklynite Jan 2023 #26

Well over a year (Trump) vs. less than two months (Biden). W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #28

Not about investigating, that's ongoing. Its about separation from political conflict of interest.nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #214

how is Elie Mystal wrong? tia uponit7771 Jan 2023 #35

"Fox News: Biden did something wrong..." dchill Jan 2023 #157

He conflates the appointment of a special council with the existance of a criminal investigation. D23MIURG23 Jan 2023 #225

We get you're his number 1 fan iemanja Jan 2023 #77

+1000 we can do it Jan 2023 #179

Nonsense. tritsofme Jan 2023 #27

If it's the quickest way to bring it to a conclusion, why didn't he do it in Trump's case rather... W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #32

+1, uponit7771 Jan 2023 #34

Because Biden's issue is minor. Trump's is much more complicated. tritsofme Jan 2023 #36

We agree, Biden's situation doesn't need a SC because its minor and not an SC this quickly either. uponit7771 Jan 2023 #59

No, it makes perfect sense. tritsofme Jan 2023 #63

That's being political on its face, something Garland said he wouldn't do. People who are doing ... uponit7771 Jan 2023 #67

This is just nonsense. tritsofme Jan 2023 #71

If you absolutely want to damage a presidency and get 50% of the population...... jaxexpat Jan 2023 #149

That's a lot of words to say not much of anything. tritsofme Jan 2023 #165

This SC will put nothing important to rest as time will surely tell. jaxexpat Jan 2023 #170

Not sure what that is supposed to mean...but sure? tritsofme Jan 2023 #174

I agree with you. sheshe2 Jan 2023 #198

Yet the same solution to both iemanja Jan 2023 #86

They are completely different situations. This is not apples to apples. tritsofme Jan 2023 #89

You can't find a consistent argument iemanja Jan 2023 #94

Both cases call for a special counsel for different reasons. tritsofme Jan 2023 #96

That doesn't make sense. Trump's situation being much more complicated pnwmom Jan 2023 #175

It is for some people. we can do it Jan 2023 #180

a quick bdamomma Jan 2023 #176

It's times like this I wish I could rec replies. AllyCat Jan 2023 #191

The quickest way would be to say the President is fully cooperating iemanja Jan 2023 #83

that's exactly right.. agingdem Jan 2023 #121

👍 Joinfortmill Jan 2023 #137

Well stated, friend. 👍 ShazzieB Jan 2023 #194

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Jan 2023 #33

President Obama nominated him for the SC and President Biden chose him as AG MichMan Jan 2023 #97

He may have been well qualified to be a SCOTUS justice iemanja Jan 2023 #100

To appease the GOP? Xoan Jan 2023 #112

This Meowmee Jan 2023 #203

I would like to think Garland Mr.Bill Jan 2023 #116

exactly-- that's the key problem LymphocyteLover Jan 2023 #163

2 weeks after tRump transitioned from private citizen to prez candidate, SC appointed Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #209

AGs do NOT serve at the pleasure of their governors/POTUS AllTooEasy Jan 2023 #200

It is a statement of fact. tritsofme Jan 2023 #202

Elie is awesome. BComplex Jan 2023 #7

+1, I don't notice anyone pointing out where Elie is wrong uponit7771 Jan 2023 #31

+1 for Elie from me, too Dave says Jan 2023 #115

Yes, and he truly tells it like it is LymphocyteLover Jan 2023 #164

I like bdamomma Jan 2023 #178

I always enjoy listening to Elie on Stephanie Miller markodochartaigh Jan 2023 #227

He's a frequent guest on MSNBC among other things, and a great guy Silent3 Jan 2023 #12

well said! BComplex Jan 2023 #122

I can't stand him. GoCubsGo Jan 2023 #15

Not surprised. Good example of why I only watch cable news tritsofme Jan 2023 #18

is he wrong? tia uponit7771 Jan 2023 #29

Not just wrong. Seems to be just a grandstanding pundit. tritsofme Jan 2023 #40

Gotta drive subscribers to his substack AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #56

And ding ding ding! We have a winner! oldsoftie Jan 2023 #192

How is he wrong on the two months vs two years contrast? tia uponit7771 Jan 2023 #65

Why do you think it matters? tritsofme Jan 2023 #74

Not the question at hand, is Mystal wrong on the contrast of time it took for Garland to act? tia uponit7771 Jan 2023 #75

Congratulations you can count. Now tell us how it is relevant. tritsofme Jan 2023 #79

My question first, thx in advance uponit7771 Jan 2023 #84

What outstanding question are you awaiting an answer? lol tritsofme Jan 2023 #87

The one I asked before you asked about relevancy uponit7771 Jan 2023 #88

And I congratulated you on your ability to count days. tritsofme Jan 2023 #92

Your congragulations didn't answer the question, was Elie wrong? At this point I'll take this amount uponit7771 Jan 2023 #98

Perhaps not wrong, but definitely a non-sequitur tritsofme Jan 2023 #101

Justice delayed is justice denied. nt Gore1FL Jan 2023 #91

Rushing things along to please armchair pundits is just stupidity. tritsofme Jan 2023 #95

So he is moving too fast with Biden? Or is moving too fast with Trump stupid? Gore1FL Jan 2023 #123

They are moving at an appropriate pace in both cases. tritsofme Jan 2023 #127

In what way is high speed appropriate for Biden, but not for Trump? Gore1FL Jan 2023 #156

Trump's is a much more complex case, and they are stonewalling. tritsofme Jan 2023 #161

Also to please armchair lawyers learned in the law, and Twitter Court judges, who does that? Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #144

Mystal can accurately read a calendar Fiendish Thingy Jan 2023 #106

It's a terribly bad, illogical, no context Twitter post...and that's saying something. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #147

He's Wrong ProfessorGAC Jan 2023 #135

👍 Joinfortmill Jan 2023 #142

Guess that makes me orangecrush Jan 2023 #105

Nah, sounds like just some schmuck looking for clicks. tritsofme Jan 2023 #107

For whatever it's worth... BlueCheeseAgain Jan 2023 #181

Agree. Another Twitter nobody with no legal training and no sense of the rule of law. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #131

Actually he's a lawyer padah513 Jan 2023 #193

no legal training? Skittles Jan 2023 #201

He is a lawyer Meowmee Jan 2023 #204

Stand corrected. Must have been on the ganga then? Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #231

You ought to find out before you call him a piece of shit!!! Grins Jan 2023 #183

Thing is, if Garland doesn't appoint now... Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #3

Spoiler alert: they're going to do that anyway. W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #8

Exactly! Silent3 Jan 2023 #16

Not about RW outrage. About 2 weeks after tRump declared & 2 weeks after sitting Prez docs found Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #211

Appointing SC is the right thing. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #52

Biden won't be guilty of a crime and it won't shut them up. W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #60

No, but it will make their BS much less believable. n/t whathehell Jan 2023 #169

What was done to Hillary speaks volumes, and as for the argument that a SC will speed things up, JohnSJ Jan 2023 #210

Exactly, and they will be screaming for an indictment Bettie Jan 2023 #212

It's not about RW outrage. It's about separation from political conflict of interest Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #213

That will ***NOT*** shut them up, it didn't for HRC and it wont for Biden or Obama or any other uponit7771 Jan 2023 #90

Nothing will shut them up so its a moot point onetexan Jan 2023 #128

Garland DID do the right thing. summer_in_TX Jan 2023 #199

Sigh, MAGA will do that no matter what. Why do some still think MAGA are sane ?! uponit7771 Jan 2023 #37

Who cares if MAGA are insane? They are NAZIs. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #43

No, they won't. W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #58

This Meowmee Jan 2023 #205

100% disagree !! The narrative is already out there that Biden is **NOT** on the up and up when ... uponit7771 Jan 2023 #73

Cable news will ensure that most people only hear Bettie Jan 2023 #82

👍 Joinfortmill Jan 2023 #143

and he didn't even wait two years iemanja Jan 2023 #4

I agree with everything he has said here. gldstwmn Jan 2023 #5

1000% agree. Ridiculous. TomDaisy Jan 2023 #9

+1, uponit7771 Jan 2023 #38

we have zero to worry about here folks GenXer47 Jan 2023 #10

Yet in Garland's eyes ... Xoan Jan 2023 #113

Oh, wow. Nice thought Joinfortmill Jan 2023 #148

Eli is acting like a fool. Beautiful Disaster Jan 2023 #13

Agreed. BlueCheeseAgain Jan 2023 #21

It's scary how many on our side parrot the same talking points from the right... Beautiful Disaster Jan 2023 #30

There are clear differences here. gldstwmn Jan 2023 #53

No there isn't. Beautiful Disaster Jan 2023 #126

Trump obstructing justice and potentially violating the Espionage Act gldstwmn Jan 2023 #188

It's too late to fire him now Meowmee Jan 2023 #206

I agree. We're stuck with him. And yes, he was a terrible choice. gldstwmn Jan 2023 #224

Agree Meowmee Jan 2023 #229

Agreed. Mystal can be funny, but he often overlooks facts Qutzupalotl Jan 2023 #22

Like the fact that Garland wasn't AG in Jan. 2021 AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #25

That doesn't negate Mystal's message that Garland did call for a SC the millisecond he became AG ... uponit7771 Jan 2023 #44

I've never heard that Garland knew about the docs in Jan 2021 AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #45

Newrepublic uponit7771 Jan 2023 #64

Your source for Elie Mystal's assertion that Garland knew about the docs in 1/21 AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #76

Tori Otten wrote the article I linked uponit7771 Jan 2023 #81

And the only reference to Garland knowing about the documents in 1/21 AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2023 #104

I'll also say that investigations of a sitting pres are much different than a citizen. Beautiful Disaster Jan 2023 #23

In regards to timing of counsel how is Elie Mystal wrong? tia uponit7771 Jan 2023 #39

"I don't care" about the reason why a special counsel shouldn't be appointed is what you are saying. W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #41

" Trump would not even be under investigation now" 👈🏾👈🏾👈🏾 THIS !!! uponit7771 Jan 2023 #69

Wasn't one of the reasons Garland was picked temporary311 Jan 2023 #17

Mike Lee of Utah recommended Garland to President Obama. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #42

👍 Xoan Jan 2023 #114

I said this very thing in a post months newdayneeded Jan 2023 #158

Yes Meowmee Jan 2023 #207

If Eli is correct them why did Obama select Garland malaise Jan 2023 #19

Because he was trying to give the Pukes someone they could vote for. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2023 #24

And look how well that worked. W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #48

THIS n/t malaise Jan 2023 #72

+1, uponit7771 Jan 2023 #78

You could say the same for other things in the Obama presidency as well. gldstwmn Jan 2023 #80

Obama was a great president, but Bettie Jan 2023 #93

You are right on the money. gldstwmn Jan 2023 #102

This Meowmee Jan 2023 #228

Because Moscow wasn't going to approve anyone President Obama nominated. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2023 #119

Agree Meowmee Jan 2023 #208

Bingo. Justice matters. Jan 2023 #54

What is this nonsense even supposed to mean? tritsofme Jan 2023 #155

Mitch McConnell blocked Garland's appointment to the Supreme Court. ShazzieB Jan 2023 #195

Garland was recommended to Obama by Orrin Hatch. Earth-shine Jan 2023 #61

Because Obama tried to get a moderate that Republicans were ok with Marius25 Jan 2023 #140

I sometimes like what Mystal says, but in this case he's wrong. BlueCheeseAgain Jan 2023 #20

The DOJ was investigating missing docs in house when Garland became AG? Thx in advance, my ... uponit7771 Jan 2023 #50

The FBI is still part of the DOJ. They have been investigating as a security issue grantcart Jan 2023 #111

Elie Mystal is harshly criticizing Merrick Garland. Mister Ed Jan 2023 #46

At the very least I expected "eviscerating" Shrek Jan 2023 #57

Click bait culture. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2023 #109

Which is essentially ether in the Twitter wind. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #133

The only thing he got wrong..... getagrip_already Jan 2023 #47

+1, ... also, couldn't an SC be called for Benedict Donald when Garland became AG? My understanding uponit7771 Jan 2023 #55

We learned that it IS possible MOMFUDSKI Jan 2023 #49

An important fact that everyone is missing. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #51

Spoiler alert: W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #62

+1, uponit7771 Jan 2023 #66

Completely wrong and unsupported by anything other than speculation. Garland has the rule of law. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #136

Another possibility (re: criminal activity). Justice matters. Jan 2023 #68

+1, I'm praying this is the outcome ... reasoning for supporting Garland grows thinner and thinner uponit7771 Jan 2023 #70

The fact is, we don't know and Garland is not going anywhere (else). Justice matters. Jan 2023 #99

+1 orangecrush Jan 2023 #108

Do you think this trump backing newdayneeded Jan 2023 #160

Garland is a republican. nuff said. NewHendoLib Jan 2023 #85

This Meowmee Jan 2023 #118

That's a lie. Which makes you a liar. emulatorloo Jan 2023 #129

Really? When he was selected he was considered on the moderate/ conservative lean NewHendoLib Jan 2023 #132

A 'moderate' Democrat is not a Republican. So yeah, it is ----a lie---- to say he is a Republican. emulatorloo Jan 2023 #134

I also recall many of us unhappy he was Obama's choice. NewHendoLib Jan 2023 #154

He's still NOT A REPUBLICAN. emulatorloo Jan 2023 #177

What? Show us otherwise. I always thought it was understood that Garland is a Republican LymphocyteLover Jan 2023 #168

See #218 (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2023 #219

Yep, he really is! Emile Jan 2023 #130

Compelling argument...but so is Liz Cheney, etc. etc...not to mention generalized to the extreme. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #138

And I agree with her on only one thing NewHendoLib Jan 2023 #153

This is a lie. tritsofme Jan 2023 #159

If that were true, then his Court of Appeals vote wouldn't have had 23 Reps against, and 0 Dems muriel_volestrangler Jan 2023 #218

I don't think it is that simple, particularly if Garland was an Obama appointee LymphocyteLover Jan 2023 #232

Garland was considered to be the most conservative of the various candidates Obama considered for LymphocyteLover Jan 2023 #233

Thank you - I think that clears it up - not a Republican (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2023 #235

No, it's not evidence for him being a Democrat muriel_volestrangler Jan 2023 #234

Something tells me Garland doesn't GAF what Mystal thinks. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2023 #103

Yes, ofc he doesn't. That anyone thinks he does is delusional. Mystal is Twitter ranting...to Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2023 #141

IMHO DU was just looking for an excuse to have a meltdown. emulatorloo Jan 2023 #146

Be careful, there are some on du who think Garland is THE MAN!, Untouchable yaesu Jan 2023 #110

I think it's safe to say we are now Meowmee Jan 2023 #117

I'm done with Garland's ass. It took him almost 2 years to do something about a COUP ffs! ecstatic Jan 2023 #120

He is rt to criticize. Snackshack Jan 2023 #124

Argument ad populum Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #226

After reading through this thread, I can only say.. infullview Jan 2023 #125

Yeah I am sure Garland feels 'destroyed' by Elie Mystal. emulatorloo Jan 2023 #139

He does not look "destroyed" & is still employed Hekate Jan 2023 #145

When DU isn't over-reacting, it isn't DU. emulatorloo Jan 2023 #150

Yup Hekate Jan 2023 #151

Yes bdamomma Jan 2023 #182

Yup. GoCubsGo Jan 2023 #197

This message was self-deleted by its author DashOneBravo Jan 2023 #152

How so? Beastly Boy Jan 2023 #162

And the reason we are supposed to care what Elie Mystal thinks is? Kaleva Jan 2023 #166

Well. 48656c6c6f20 Jan 2023 #167

I agree somewhat, but Catherine Vincent Jan 2023 #171

Merrick Garland has been called to serve under Presidents Clinton, Obama, and Biden. OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2023 #172

I'd wager that most would prefer him to Garland at this point. iemanja Jan 2023 #184

I sorry if i don't understand, but OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2023 #185

Let's start with Joe Biden iemanja Jan 2023 #186

MKay OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2023 #189

And one has shown himself to execute those obligations exceedingly poorly. iemanja Jan 2023 #190

Garland came to Obama highly recommended ... Earth-shine Jan 2023 #196

Senator Orrin Hatch was for Garland. Jesus Emile Jan 2023 #220

Got it. OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2023 #222

Post removed Post removed Jan 2023 #173

Interesting e-mails to say the least. republianmushroom Jan 2023 #187

The one area I disagreed with Obama. Dustlawyer Jan 2023 #215

I think he knew no nominee was getting approved News Junkie Jan 2023 #216

Garland is a huge fuckng disappointment, so scared of R's he throws Ds under the bus. lark Jan 2023 #217

I think the term "destroyed" is overstating just a bit.. :) n/t msfiddlestix Jan 2023 #221

The winners in all of this are the lawyers Mosby Jan 2023 #223