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gldstwmn

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32. He was one of 13 producers on Rust and his production deal applied to script changes, writing,
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 10:16 PM
Feb 2023

a financial investment in the film and back-end profits which he has signed over to Halyna Hutchins husband and son. As someone said further up on this thread, he has already settled monetarily. Did you know that charges were brought without even bringing the case before a grand jury? The judge still has to decide whether or not to move this case to trial.
In light of this information of a politician serving in the New Mexico legislature serving as Special Prosecutor, this whole thing smells highly political. It's a huge gaffe at the very least.
I think Alec Baldwin is a fine actor and I've enjoyed his work immensely over the years but I do not know him personally. I am aware of some of his mistakes and perceived shortcomings. But I do think that he is being railroaded here for the reasons I've mentioned and for political reasons.
As far as the actor always checking the gun, I have read conflicting reports. I have read that once the actor checks the gun the armorer then has to check the weapon again which is hugely time consuming. I have read that some do and some do not check the gun or that the armorer shows it to them, which, if you don't know what you're looking at is pretty pointless.
In the Variety article you linked IATSE is upset with him which is to be understood because the crew that walked off was one of theirs.
SAG-AFTRA on the other hand, has his back going so far as to say:
“The prosecutor’s contention that an actor has a duty to ensure the functional and mechanical operation of a firearm on a production set is wrong and uninformed. An actor’s job is not to be a firearms or weapons expert. Firearms are provided for their use under the guidance of multiple expert professionals directly responsible for the safe and accurate operation of that firearm. In addition, the employer is always responsible for providing a safe work environment at all times, including hiring and supervising the work of professionals trained in weapons.

The Industry Standards for safety with firearms and use of blank ammunition are ​clearly laid out ​in Safety Bulletin 1, provided by the​ Joint​ Industry-Wide Labor Management Safety Commission. The guidelines require an experienced, qualified armorer to be put in charge of all handling, use, and safekeeping of firearms on set. These duties include ‘inspecting the firearm and barrel before and after every firing sequence,’ and ‘checking all firearms before each use.’

“The guidelines do not make it the performer’s responsibility to check any firearm. Performers ​train to perform, and they are not required or expected to be experts on guns or experienced in their use. The industry assigns that responsibility to qualified professionals who oversee their use and handling in every aspect. Anyone issued a firearm on set must be ​given training and guidance in its safe handling​g and use,​ but all activity with firearms on a set must be under the careful supervision and control of the professional armorer and the employer.”

https://deadline.com/2023/01/alec-baldwin-criminal-charges-rust-shooting-sag-aftra-defends-actor-1235228068/
I honestly didn't want to regurgitate the argument about safety with my initial post but wanted more to focus on the constitutional gaffe and oddity of politician serving in the NM legislature being tapped as Special Prosecutor and what the possible implications of that might be so I'll just leave it at that.

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This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2023 #1
It isn't that she's R prosecutor. It is that she is current Republican member of state legislature hlthe2b Feb 2023 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2023 #4
New Mexico Constitution. Not US Constitution onenote Feb 2023 #12
In other words if she wants to proceed with this case she can but she has to resign first? cstanleytech Feb 2023 #17
I would guess. hlthe2b Feb 2023 #18
A carefully crafted complaint. He might just prevail on that. hlthe2b Feb 2023 #2
Yeah the Republican thing is a non-starter but the constitutional question is interesting dutch777 Feb 2023 #5
Whoever put live ammo in the gun is the one who should be prosecuted. Permanut Feb 2023 #6
That person if they can find who did it should be prosecuted, friend of a friend Feb 2023 #8
According to one report, Baldwin didn't attend a safety meeting Kaleva Feb 2023 #10
He's not wrong edhopper Feb 2023 #7
I knew the prosecutor was a Trumper Catherine Vincent Feb 2023 #9
She was already running for office when she was appointed and that is the crux of the issue gldstwmn Feb 2023 #11
That is a genuinely interesting question Sympthsical Feb 2023 #13
Baldwin may have some culpability as the Producer, but that would seem to me to be keopeli Feb 2023 #14
He has already settled edhopper Feb 2023 #19
I have read an awful lot about this case and I find the legal aspects interesting. gldstwmn Feb 2023 #30
Really bad headline! Should omit the word "Republican" because it's irrelevant. n/t keopeli Feb 2023 #15
Yahoo bends to the right! Emile Feb 2023 #23
It doesn't matter who prosecutes because he is guilty ripcord Feb 2023 #16
No it doesn't, not in this case edhopper Feb 2023 #20
Hollywood rules do not overrule the law ripcord Feb 2023 #21
Yes they do edhopper Feb 2023 #24
So where exactly is this exception to the law for movies? ripcord Feb 2023 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author gldstwmn Feb 2023 #31
Mens rea Zeitghost Feb 2023 #35
Involuntary manslaughter in New Mexico gldstwmn Feb 2023 #36
Zero expectation is bs . It's a real gun which he knew and there was a famous case of an actor who JI7 Feb 2023 #38
I have a hard time believing Zeitghost Feb 2023 #39
They speed and drive recklessly Zeitghost Feb 2023 #33
Laws don't change on movie sets Zeitghost Feb 2023 #22
It actually is edhopper Feb 2023 #25
If you have a real gun in your hands it is your responsibility to check and see if its loaded. former9thward Feb 2023 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author gldstwmn Feb 2023 #29
Again Zeitghost Feb 2023 #34
gldstwmn........... Upthevibe Feb 2023 #26
He was one of 13 producers on Rust and his production deal applied to script changes, writing, gldstwmn Feb 2023 #32
gldstwmn........ Upthevibe Feb 2023 #40
Should not have been charged itfp Meowmee Feb 2023 #37
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