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Showing Original Post only (View all)None of panelists on Scarborough-not Joe-not David Gregory-not Chuck Todd, none dared to answer... [View all]
Frum on Morning Joe: a remarkable 15 minutes of television
by David Atkins
Former Bush speechwriter David Frum made a remarkable appearance on Morning Joe, saying things even many progressives often won't come out and say. The video is below.
He begins with this:
Mitt Romney's message is I am going to take away Medicare from everybody under 55, I'm going to cut Medicaid for everybody but about a third, and I'm going to do that to finance a giant tax cut for me and my friends, and the reason I'm doing that is because half the country contribute nothing to the national endeavor.
Then about four minutes in, something even more attention-grabbing after Scarborough bloviated about Thatcher and Reagan appealing to the common man:
Since the loss of the election, we have heard an enormous amount of discussion from Republicans on television and newspaper columns about immigration as an issue...but all of us who are allowed to participate in this conversation, we all have health insurance. And the fact that millions of Americans don't have health insurance, they don't get to be on television. And it is maybe a symptom of a broader problem, not just the Republican problem, that the economic anxieties of so many Americans are just not part of the national discussion at all. I mean, we have not yet emerged from the greatest national catastrophe, the greatest economic catastrophe since the Great Depression. And what are we talking about? The deficit and the debt. And these are important problems, but they're a lot easier to worry about if you are wealthier than you were in 2008, which most of the people on television now are again, if you are securely employed, which most of the people on television now are. But that's not true for 80% of America. And the Republican Party, the opposition party, needed to find some way to give voice to real urgent economic concerns held by middle class Americans. Latinos, yes, but Americans of all ethnicities.
None of the panelists on Scaraborough--not Joe himself, not David Gregory, not Chuck Todd, none of them--dared to answer Frum's devastating indictment of them. Not of the Republican Party, but of them. It was uncomfortable, and then blithely ignored.
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After five full minutes of inside baseball speculation on Republican leadership games during which Frum looked like he might pull a Howard Beale (check out the look on Frum's face at 11:09 of the video!), he finally got a chance to speak again:
I believe the Republican Party is a party of followership. The problem with the Republican leaders is that they're cowards....The real locus of the problem is the Republican activist base and the Republican donor base. They went apocalyptic over the past four years. And that was exploited by a lot of people in the conservative world. I won't soon forget the lupine smile that played over the head of a major conservative institution when he told me that our donors think the apocalypse has arrived. Republicans have been fleeced and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex....Because the followers, the donors and the activists are so mistaken about the nature of the problems the country faces the nature--I mean, it's just a simple question. I went to Tea Party rallies and I would ask this question: "have taxes gone up or down in the past four years?" They could not answer that question correctly. Now it's true that taxes will go up if the President is re-elected. That's why we're Republicans. But you have to know that taxes have not gone up in the past. And "do we spend a trillion dollars on welfare?" Is that true or false? It is false. But it is almost universally believed. That means that the leaders have no space to operate.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/11/frum-on-morning-joe-remarkable-15.html
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None of panelists on Scarborough-not Joe-not David Gregory-not Chuck Todd, none dared to answer... [View all]
kpete
Nov 2012
OP
David Frum is the only conservative worth listening to. He may not always be right
spooky3
Nov 2012
#4
Yes, that was amazingly insightful. I hadn't thought of it in those ways exactly...
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#33
A helluva video. I've got to check dis Louis Ludwig guy out. Thanks for the post.
ancianita
Nov 2012
#114
Found on the net (I use it quite a bit in the message board wars) - "Hey tea party fanatics, google
progree
Nov 2012
#58
?? "buh bye" ?? - I think he was agreeing with my characterization of tea party fanatics, not
progree
Nov 2012
#149
I am fully in support of your improvement suggestion. How do we schedule a committee meeting,
Volaris
Nov 2012
#142
Full of BS, comical "conservative entertainment complex" who call themselves "news"
AnotherMother4Peace
Nov 2012
#10
"Those who seem to despise half of America will never be trusted to govern any of it.
bloomington-lib
Nov 2012
#12
Everybody talking on TV is wearing a suit that costs more than two week's pay for the viewers...
Spitfire of ATJ
Nov 2012
#14
Yep, the Limbaughs, Hannitys, Levins, Coulters, Ingrahams, O'Reillys, and their ilk
rateyes
Nov 2012
#15
I believe it's math that explains the influence the Conservation Entertainment Complex
AnotherMother4Peace
Nov 2012
#23
It's very easy to exploit that type of thinking - which is what the CEC (Conservative Entertainment
AnotherMother4Peace
Nov 2012
#30
To Joe's credit he did have David Frum repeat that last paragraph on how the Republican Party
Uncle Joe
Nov 2012
#29
But only after Halperin took over as discussion moderator and asked Frum to elaborate.
speedoo
Nov 2012
#73
Tired of Overpaid Cable/Radio Pundits telling us what to think and believe
LovingA2andMI
Nov 2012
#40
I've never heard any conservative talk about poor people and the middle class like that before
liberal_at_heart
Nov 2012
#118
The core value of the Republican Party is to make oodles of money for the 1%. Nothing else matters.
valerief
Nov 2012
#49
I don't understand how they think they can get the Latino vote and their base in the same tent....
Walk away
Nov 2012
#64
They tried using gay rights to split the African American vote away from the Democrats
MNBrewer
Nov 2012
#71
They won't do it, that's their christian fundamentalist base. It's too large a voting block.
Dont call me Shirley
Nov 2012
#80
RW rado is the main problem here. LIMBAUGH! is the name they dare not speak and that they can't
certainot
Nov 2012
#68
Their propaganda machine is biting them in the butt - the greedy pigs nt
AnotherMother4Peace
Nov 2012
#70
David Brooks says similar things, which is also why he is derided as a "moderate"...
TomCADem
Nov 2012
#101
I found that curious as well. How, after all he said, could he think Romney would make a good pres?
cui bono
Nov 2012
#83
That's the thing, Frum thinks the Republicans have deviated from a more ideal course...
JHB
Nov 2012
#136
If anyone thinks that the GOP will magically transform itself they are delusional.
olegramps
Nov 2012
#147
Gore and Clinton were right. The corporate media is the BIGGEST threat to our democracy. nt
progressivebydesign
Nov 2012
#99
Paul Ryan's job was to sell our lives. Shameful! He is ruined in politics. Thanks! for spanking him
patrice
Nov 2012
#113
david gregory can always find a bright light for republicans, even in the darkest night
spanone
Nov 2012
#141
Frum: "Mitt Romney could have been a really good president". I really don't understand
truth2power
Nov 2012
#143
Conservatives have been lied to. That was the basic premise over the Gravis affair.
grantcart
Nov 2012
#158