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Buckeyeblue

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17. I think they thought there would be some initial outrage followed by complacency

Sun Apr 16, 2023, 09:06 PM

Apr 2023

My guess is their models didn't figure strong defiance into the equation. If they did, the legislation leading to Dobbs would have been pulled back.

For years Republicans haven't had to defend their stance on abortion. Because with Roe in place, it was purely hypothetical. It's hard to get the average person excited about what could happen. But now that we are in the post-Roe world, the hypothetical is now the reality. All the things we've said would happen on this site are reality. It might even be worse.

Now the issue has been flipped. People are not ashamed to be pro-abortion. It's the most important issue of 2024. We might even have some surprising election outcomes.

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I wonder if the GOP figured women who are past their childbearing years [View all] milestogo Apr 2023 OP

Probably dflprincess Apr 2023 #1

And they have mothers and grandmothers who lived in the pre-Roe era milestogo Apr 2023 #3

We came of age when abortion was legal and easily obtainable. Novara Apr 2023 #49

They figured it doesn't matter what the people think. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #2

It's the only thing that explains their behavior. rubbersole Apr 2023 #24

Exactly. It is the only explanation that fits the facts and makes any sense. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #25

The oligarchs (w/the Federalist Society) owning the courts... rubbersole Apr 2023 #26

Yes exactly. Most people have not yet connected all the dots. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #33

The best thing about tfg making a clusterfuck of our political way of life is... rubbersole Apr 2023 #35

Trump was a one man audit of the entire US government and country. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #36

My granddaughters, 22 and 18, are rabid climate activists. rubbersole Apr 2023 #37

Very encouraging. Good to hear this. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #41

Just look at Texas Bettie Apr 2023 #43

Yes the GOP is ending democracy, state by state. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #44

Trying to. This battle may continue over another decade, possibly more. Hortensis Apr 2023 #56

Yes what we took for granted is being lost day by day. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #58

Yup. And just passing an egregious law is not automatically Hortensis Apr 2023 #59

We are only beginning to see the extent of the damage to our democracy. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #60

And there are Americans who are just fine with this. shrike3 Apr 2023 #62

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Apr 2023 #48

I'm a man. Aristus Apr 2023 #4

Just . Maru Kitteh Apr 2023 #14

Me too! Pepsidog Apr 2023 #15

+1000. "I've voted only for candidates who respect the rights of all Americans." Hortensis Apr 2023 #57

I think you're on to something senseandsensibility Apr 2023 #5

Women who are past their childbearing years Retrograde Apr 2023 #6

My wife at 61 and has an IUD for reasons unrelated to pregnancy. Pepsidog Apr 2023 #13

This will sound harsh, but the half-dozen Repug/djt-voting women I know never wanted children, allegorical oracle Apr 2023 #45

This is it, right here. ShazzieB Apr 2023 #54

I think they figure that they Mr.Bill Apr 2023 #7

I agree. pandr32 Apr 2023 #8

I would bet that older Boomer women who vote for the traitors ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #28

Thank you for your common sense and truth GenThePerservering Apr 2023 #38

I'm an older boomer. wnylib Apr 2023 #42

I'm sure there were those not influenced by the huge trends. pandr32 Apr 2023 #53

For every forced birth, justgamma Apr 2023 #9

Catholics in Kansas spent more then 4 million tax exempt dollars BOSSHOG Apr 2023 #12

In theory. Demobrat Apr 2023 #31

They've locked in a bit under half of those people you mention, via conservative Christianity. NullTuples Apr 2023 #10

probably. barbtries Apr 2023 #11

they are finding out that people, in general, understand that the GOP is attacking bodily autonomy BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 2023 #16

I think they thought there would be some initial outrage followed by complacency Buckeyeblue Apr 2023 #17

If anything, I think men and women old enough to remember milestogo Apr 2023 #18

They fear an informed base Puppyjive Apr 2023 #19

Nailed it republianmushroom Apr 2023 #20

As a feminist I want girls, and women to have as many choices as possible... electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #21

I'm a woman past child bearing age. Demobrat Apr 2023 #32

Well, they were wrong. Joinfortmill Apr 2023 #22

Well, they haven't been proven entirely wrong. krkaufman Apr 2023 #23

As these past childbearing, PRO-LIFE women MOMFUDSKI Apr 2023 #27

And women do talk to each other about these things. milestogo Apr 2023 #29

Their lack of empathy is doing them in. They thought they had destroyed applegrove Apr 2023 #30

Bold of you to credit them with cognitive ability. Arthur_Frain Apr 2023 #34

They WERE playing the long game GenThePerservering Apr 2023 #39

I don't believe the GOP's thinking was quite that granular. GoodRaisin Apr 2023 #40

Beyond abortion Lottie Dah Apr 2023 #46

So sorry to hear of your tribulations. You've come to the right place, welcome! marble falls Apr 2023 #50

Excellent point, more women suffering with dangerous pregnancies are being placed in jeopardy Rhiannon12866 Apr 2023 #61

I agree. Sorry about your tough times. Welcome to DU. Perfect new screen name. +10 MMBeilis Apr 2023 #63

And so many women continue to vote GOP Kaleva Apr 2023 #47

Me personally inthewind21 Apr 2023 #51

They underestimate the general humanity of most of the country Mad_Machine76 Apr 2023 #52

I am well past my childbearing years, but I have a memory! ShazzieB Apr 2023 #55

I think this is a mindset that if it doesn't impact them they don't care. Liberal In Texas Apr 2023 #64

I have run into men who think all post-menopausal women are depressed because GoCubsGo Apr 2023 #65