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Pepsidog

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27. As a criminal defense attorney, I find Roberts's behavior disturbing. They have a problem with

Sat Apr 22, 2023, 02:36 PM

Apr 2023

what a “reasonable person” standard would understand the words to mean. Roberts and crew are talking about “overly-sensitive people” who, by definition, are not reasonable persons in this instance. What is more important, the intent of the defendant or how the victims perceived the unwanted communication? What is equally disturbing is this line in the story, “progressive justices did little to push back against the chief justice’s snickering tone.” What a F’ed up SCOTUS we have. And, generally I support the ACLU but it seems to be on the wrong side of the case here

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Chief Justice John Roberts' Mockery of Stalking Victims Points to a Deeper Problem [View all] Nevilledog Apr 2023 OP

So disappointing. What assholes. Joinfortmill Apr 2023 #1

No kidding!!! What ASSHOLES!!! calimary Apr 2023 #10

Roberts is a like a Vegas slot machine peppertree Apr 2023 #20

Hating on women is so much fun for these ignorant fucks. Scrivener7 Apr 2023 #2

If the shoe were on the other foot, they wouldn't be laughing, they'd pass a new law MagickMuffin Apr 2023 #3

Yep. Innocent protests and the SC gets top of the line expensive security, paid for by taxpayers. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #5

To be laughed at BigMin28 Apr 2023 #23

Regular Americans, especially women, are second class citizens. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #35

RBG was right GopherGal Apr 2023 #28

+1 Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #36

The only thing RBG was wrong about... SunSeeker Apr 2023 #73

Make lemonade and keep throwing it at them bucolic_frolic Apr 2023 #4

the same court that cried like babies and demanded a new law when peaceful protesters mopinko Apr 2023 #6

That is both discouraging and shocking RussBLib Apr 2023 #7

"disturbing" is an understatement imo orleans Apr 2023 #68

+1000. Just when I thought my opinion of republicans ecstatic Apr 2023 #72

not trashing a 'norm' stopdiggin Apr 2023 #76

Hypersensitivity? gratuitous Apr 2023 #8

I believe strongly in the 1A Mad_Machine76 Apr 2023 #9

Threatening is already illegal and we have clear legal definitions. Zeitghost Apr 2023 #57

Stalking *is* threatening IMHO Mad_Machine76 Apr 2023 #58

Of course it is Zeitghost Apr 2023 #60

was she able to get an order of protection? nt orleans Apr 2023 #69

No Zeitghost Apr 2023 #78

"dealt with the issue" is exactly what needs to be done MarcA Apr 2023 #74

Hateful jokester fuck ... dchill Apr 2023 #11

Stalking is just an extension of domestic violence by an ex-boyfriend or husband. Lonestarblue Apr 2023 #12

I BeerBarrelPolka Apr 2023 #50

How else are you gonna protect not fooled Apr 2023 #13

roberts doesn't need to look elsewhere Marthe48 Apr 2023 #14

Thank you. milestogo Apr 2023 #18

Intent is much harder to prove than a reasonable person standard. JudyM Apr 2023 #15

What horrible people. ShazzieB Apr 2023 #34

If you think women are second class citizens this is one more case that proves the point. They are! flashman13 Apr 2023 #16

This sounds like an opportunity to make the country worse. Turbineguy Apr 2023 #17

So verbally terrorizing someone is okay with them? WestMichRad Apr 2023 #19

This is horrifying. There's such a tiny slice of humanity this SCOTUS finds has any intrinsic value Hekate Apr 2023 #21

They only see Mankind, not all of Humanity. intheflow Apr 2023 #52

Contempt for women underlies his ability to joke about terrorism of women. Timeflyer Apr 2023 #22

Repukes can kill people out of fear of their own god damn shadow but onecaliberal Apr 2023 #24

Just wow. How dreadful to be a hopeful stalking victim and have to hear this. nt Hortensis Apr 2023 #25

Stalking is funny, laughable? Just cyber-stalking or all forms? Is following someone txwhitedove Apr 2023 #26

As a criminal defense attorney, I find Roberts's behavior disturbing. They have a problem with Pepsidog Apr 2023 #27

This is one of those ACLU amicus briefs so focused on minutia it ends up doing harm NullTuples Apr 2023 #33

Thanks for the link. Pepsidog Apr 2023 #49

agree, agree, agree orleans Apr 2023 #70

Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2023 #29

Roberts may have done so to hide the emergent property of there being 1000's of them NullTuples Apr 2023 #30

Screw ACLU and EFF. Two organizations I am embarrassed to have supported. quaint Apr 2023 #31

with you on ACLU KT2000 Apr 2023 #53

Yes, I think this is a big mistake on their part. Susan Calvin Apr 2023 #65

So, it will be OK to stalk supreme court justices - ya know as harumph Apr 2023 #32

As well as their children or wives Rebl2 Apr 2023 #55

Roberts following the Tucker Carlson routine of cherry-picking data and then laughing at it. Midnight Writer Apr 2023 #37

I'm sure Roberts would be cool if some violent psycho were stalking hi Orrex Apr 2023 #38

Normalizing child abuse EndlessWire Apr 2023 #39

I find it interesting that these guys could so casually lump their mothers together with vanlassie Apr 2023 #54

Asking a SCOTUS member with an Opus Dei approval to be reasonable on women's issues DFW Apr 2023 #40

He doesn't get it at all. Men get stalked, too, and it ruins their lives Warpy Apr 2023 #41

Agreed BeerBarrelPolka Apr 2023 #51

Sounds like recess at elementary school. So many assholes with way too much power. nt Evolve Dammit Apr 2023 #42

Where are the amicus briefs from organizations like Sanctuary for Families. ancianita Apr 2023 #43

This from the court that sought and got taxpayer funded protection for their personal property Freethinker65 Apr 2023 #44

From the crew who flips out at the mere thought Ruby the Liberal Apr 2023 #45

What an Unprofessional Insensitive Cha Apr 2023 #46

Makes Justice Alito's whining... Trueblue Texan Apr 2023 #47

Kicking for visibility. love_katz Apr 2023 #48

If he or his family was on the receiving end, I'd get he'd not be so cavalier about Bristlecone Apr 2023 #56

Let's be clear mountain grammy Apr 2023 #59

Odd how you can shoot someone in a 'stand your ground' state just because you are fearful. 70sEraVet Apr 2023 #61

glib race bannon Apr 2023 #62

... sheshe2 Apr 2023 #63

THOUSANDS of messages. That's a fucking crazy person. Wingus Dingus Apr 2023 #64

Kicking with disgust MustLoveBeagles Apr 2023 #66

If it's inevitable, relax and enjoy it. In R Logic. czarjak Apr 2023 #67

BOOKMARKIKNG this thread orleans Apr 2023 #71

K&R spanone Apr 2023 #75

There is no Supreme Court anymore Farmer-Rick Apr 2023 #77