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Douglas Carpenter

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90. It wasn't just Romney himself. The same exact thinking infected his entire campaign from grassroots

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:16 PM

Nov 2012

activist all the way up to senior advisers and his own Vice President. Ryan was reported to have looked completely dazed and confused. Ordinary Republicans looked completely dazed and confused.

Having lived half my life in the third world - this is EXACTLY the way third world despots and their supporters think No one ever tells the emperor or the emperor's advisers or the emperor's supporters that the emperor he has no clothes. It is just not done.

The Republicans have created a tightly insulated closed information system - shut off from the rest of the world - in which they voluntarily submit themselves to third world dictatorship level information control. It might be comparable to someone living in a closed and isolated religious community. They assume anything that contradicts their information is propaganda from the enemy. They are overwhelmed with cognitive dissonance when reality forces its ugly head upon them.

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I can't stop marveling at rMoney's monumental arrogance [View all] cali Nov 2012 OP

I wonder if he set a precedent on the tax returns? Will the next Republican candidate start out brewens Nov 2012 #1

Maybe. I think we should set about requiring a minimum of say, 12 years, tax returns be revealed in silvershadow Nov 2012 #56

Yes, he did so set, but for BOTH Parties. Another disgusting Romney legacy. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #61

I am not so sure Ya Basta Nov 2012 #110

No, because the arrogant pos LOST. So, I think future candidates Cha Nov 2012 #121

the icing on the cake is he is the poster child for the 1% Skittles Nov 2012 #2

What were they thinking? Is 2012 the year of the 1%? Coyotl Nov 2012 #137

I don't know why anyone thought Mitt would win. mwb970 Nov 2012 #145

Mitt Romney is a huckster. American voters have ways of shutting that thing down. libdem4life Nov 2012 #3

I so agree. Jane Austin Nov 2012 #24

Bull's eye. Win! nt hifiguy Nov 2012 #35

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #95

And with all the money and rich friends LukeFL Nov 2012 #103

LOVE YOUR POST!!! "American voters have ways of shutting that thing down." ROFL!!!!! calimary Nov 2012 #120

An anthropologist friend of mine once said that an alpha male eridani Nov 2012 #139

!!!!!! GREAT ONE!!!!!! calimary Nov 2012 #161

^^THIS^^ Maynar Nov 2012 #174

I am amused by the arrogance and stupidity of the Republicans in general. Jennicut Nov 2012 #4

How do you just hifiguy Nov 2012 #40

You just say that they're biased gay liberals... dchill Nov 2012 #57

You say they're "effeminate" and girly. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #76

At their own Peril. Cha Nov 2012 #123

Amazing, isn't it? demmis19566ie Nov 2012 #89

Obama and his team and surrogates were very, very intelligent. ffr Nov 2012 #162

And as someone pointed out Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #5

I noticed the hair as well.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #14

I did not notice because that is the way I always wear my hair. RebelOne Nov 2012 #187

My hair in always secured in a "top-knot" on the top of my head... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #188

wow. didn't notice that. You are so right. cali Nov 2012 #15

Prom updo - that's perfect! Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #58

Gawd. The whole lot of them look shell-shocked. loudsue Nov 2012 #50

I noticed the updo, by the time she came out it look kind disheveled. Raine Nov 2012 #55

Yeah, I thought it was a mess too and for being so wealthy , she doesn't always wear sammytko Nov 2012 #107

That's Mitt's $3,000 suit? He needs to go and get about louis-t Nov 2012 #163

Are those puddles under them? Lochloosa Nov 2012 #66

For that matter, why is Ryan's daughter dressed like a five year old? starroute Nov 2012 #69

I don't have a problem with a 10 year old dressing like a little girl DesertRat Nov 2012 #86

The trouble is that ten year olds *aren't* little girls starroute Nov 2012 #112

The Ryan girl just needs the right accessories. JBoy Nov 2012 #115

that was the creepiest family picture ever! DesertRat Nov 2012 #135

Oh good greif! This pic tops all! MuhkRahker Nov 2012 #142

Wow!! That is very scary. Looks like something out of a horror flick. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #144

What a strange-looking group of people. Wow. /nt mwb970 Nov 2012 #146

Howling with laughter malaise Nov 2012 #171

Jeezus, the Addams Family Maynar Nov 2012 #176

I totally agree with you. I have a 12 year old and at age 11 she would have been embarrrassed to Happyhippychick Nov 2012 #154

Now That Fam is Dressed for Cha Nov 2012 #124

I'm glad that Romney/Ryan lost, but we don't need to be attacking a 10 year old's fashion sense (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #130

I'm not -- I'm attacking her parents for dressing her that way starroute Nov 2012 #136

Both kids are gorgeous eridani Nov 2012 #140

I think she was taller than me when she was 10 Skittles Nov 2012 #184

I must say, what an attractive family! smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #148

PCIntern malaise Nov 2012 #70

Thanks! n/t Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #82

great read and points to ponder. EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #102

I noticed the updo on election night DesertRat Nov 2012 #83

The dress looked better when Nancy Reagan wore it. eShirl Nov 2012 #92

Oh goodness Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #93

Meow! All dressed up in Cha Nov 2012 #125

And while we're at it, what's with the weird PDA? ncgrits Nov 2012 #119

That's my theory too.She spent 2 hours getting her hair teased into an updo and then tore the hotel Happyhippychick Nov 2012 #152

Of course she threw a fit... 2naSalit Nov 2012 #181

People respect confidence aletier_v Nov 2012 #6

People admire lots of things. For instance, humility. cali Nov 2012 #17

I didn't use the word "admire". aletier_v Nov 2012 #31

i agree with locdlib Nov 2012 #74

People have forgotten how to trust their own feelers. Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #38

It's how people have always been, to a lesser or greater degree. aletier_v Nov 2012 #46

of course there have always been exceptions but it is useful to those in power Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #48

The older you are in life when you face your first big loss, the harder it is to take. milestogo Nov 2012 #7

Mitt's been running for POTUS for years Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #8

He ran in primaries, but never won. aletier_v Nov 2012 #18

He thought his tastes of defeat were building name recognition, training and magical thyme Nov 2012 #28

I'm not sure bitter is the right word aletier_v Nov 2012 #34

Bitter to me implies denial & rationalization, anger, blame -- anything except self-reflection Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #41

I'd vote for obscurity but that's because it's what I would do aletier_v Nov 2012 #49

Obscurity, or even better, federal investigation, would be my choice as well. Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #99

there are 4 basic flavors: bitter, salt, sweet, sour magical thyme Nov 2012 #157

Perhaps umami regrets? GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #179

nope. bitter regrets. I'm sure there is deep anger and resentment. magical thyme Nov 2012 #182

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #122

And the deflation of Mitt Romney is ever so satisfying. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #9

Please. don't let your cats eat those rubber scraps! They have passed them safely tblue37 Nov 2012 #25

Actually, this hasn't happened in a long time. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #26

Oh, thank goodness. Glad to hear it! nt tblue37 Nov 2012 #27

Best post election analogy ever! Danascot Nov 2012 #39

I agree! BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #53

All danger to actual cats aside, the image of Money Boo Boo as beac Nov 2012 #64

"Money Boo Boo" Maynar Nov 2012 #178

This message was self-deleted by its author The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #65

Bwaaaaaaaaaah hahahahaha malaise Nov 2012 #109

WORTHY OF ITS OWN THREAD, TVO Skittles Nov 2012 #141

"sadly farting balloon"... renate Nov 2012 #143

But the bubble is everything. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #10

Wow, I missed the plans for re-election. What is beyond arrogant called? nt Mnemosyne Nov 2012 #11

He's an arrogant entitled prick and a pathological LIAR malaise Nov 2012 #12

But it wasn't just Romney. *Everyone* on that side was sure the fix was in. tblue37 Nov 2012 #23

I think it was a closed loop of misinformation. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #30

Remember how they bragged that they created reality and we lunatica Nov 2012 #62

I think social media is helping pull back the curtain on their lies and spin. Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #168

Yes they either had a plan or they miscalculated big time malaise Nov 2012 #151

They all firmly believed that all that money and voter suppression bought napi21 Nov 2012 #153

Farewell otohara Nov 2012 #13

Its pretty simple madokie Nov 2012 #16

That simple malaise Nov 2012 #21

And now he knows we know madokie Nov 2012 #59

The WORST campaign I've ever seen BuelahWitch Nov 2012 #164

Rmoney lost because he believed his own lies. baldguy Nov 2012 #19

So did the rest of his party. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #98

Even Stevie Wonder could tell they couldn't win.. HipChick Nov 2012 #20

I *feel certain* that he and the other Republicans *felt certain* tblue37 Nov 2012 #22

the entire media was behaving as if they were manufacturing consent for the theft RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #100

On another thread Botany and some others have offered a plausible tblue37 Nov 2012 #131

My thoughts, exactly. momsrule Nov 2012 #150

Where is this elusive "entire media" you discovered? Coyotl Nov 2012 #138

I think they simply believe their own bullshit. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #105

Yes, bubble is the most likely explanation. The famous saying applies: Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #147

Nate Silver cannot be underestimated as a concern EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #108

What I couldn't believe nichomachus Nov 2012 #29

Not if you wanted to thumb your nose. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #67

I wonder if it was intended as an "UP YOURS" Mariana Nov 2012 #72

wow. that did not occur to me aletier_v Nov 2012 #118

Not at all. Bostonians hate him. smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #149

His supporters flew into Boston nichomachus Nov 2012 #158

Ever since the 3rd debate OldHippieChick Nov 2012 #32

That look spoke volumes. n/t IL Lib Nov 2012 #94

Just wait until all the books come out madaboutharry Nov 2012 #33

It's not the transition website and fireworks because obviously you want to be prepared NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #36

I think even Bill Clinton wrote a concession speech for 1992 bluestateguy Nov 2012 #63

I thought candidates were not supposed to admit to writing them democrattotheend Nov 2012 #189

I think the fireworks would have been a first. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #71

Dubya was planning a street party with fireworks... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #88

Sad, but true. Thank you. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #155

I remember it was raining that night in Texas dragonlady Nov 2012 #167

Really? I thought some candidates do it. Obama's campaign considered it in 2008 democrattotheend Nov 2012 #190

Precisely. As another DUer said, his "concession" speech seemed to have been outtakes from his Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #117

It was very gratifying seeing them so depressed. dem4ward Nov 2012 #37

We will know the inside story SCVDem Nov 2012 #42

really well said, thanks Cali Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #43

57 million plus bought what he was selling. kentuck Nov 2012 #44

yes it is Skittles Nov 2012 #185

he just got high on his own supply. He believed the polls are wrong BS and everything else from Fox Hamlette Nov 2012 #45

Yes, the part where he didn't want to be blamed for potential failures at Bain says it all n/t sammytko Nov 2012 #113

I believe he thought he was destined Blue Gardener Nov 2012 #47

And with that realization, Mitt turned to his son and said, WinkyDink Nov 2012 #75

He was raised to believe The Wizard Nov 2012 #51

He set himself up for a whopper of a karmic adjustment lunatica Nov 2012 #52

I agree except agent46 Nov 2012 #54

He honestly believed he was chosen by God Motown_Johnny Nov 2012 #60

I'm watching "Game Change" on HBO right now. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #68

Remember what Ann said drmeow Nov 2012 #73

The real Americans, the Makers, voted for him. Everyone else does not belong here. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #77

This Happened In Large Measure Because DallasNE Nov 2012 #78

It kind of explains the weird look on his face at all times. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #79

Like a big cold splash in the face! Uniblab Nov 2012 #80

Just another day on bullshit mountain for the fox crew.. mountain grammy Nov 2012 #81

I believe I would be humiliated if I lost millions of people's votes...myself..so I imagine he is in onecent Nov 2012 #84

The GOP really needs to stop running turds for president rock Nov 2012 #85

Most satisfying to me is that we, the little people they despise so much, denied them catbyte Nov 2012 #96

Now he in the same mental shape as his buddy Trump, oldbanjo Nov 2012 #87

It wasn't just Romney himself. The same exact thinking infected his entire campaign from grassroots Douglas Carpenter Nov 2012 #90

+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #91

Interesting... Liberal1975 Nov 2012 #97

Almost works the same way as venture capitalism... EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #111

I was wondering Liberal1975 Nov 2012 #116

I also think he has a Daddy complex and that's what bites him the worst... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2012 #101

What is it with Republicans with daddy issues? Doodler71 Nov 2012 #133

Daddy was an authoritarian Maynar Nov 2012 #180

Mitt Romney did not want to be president. He wanted to be first CEO. Initech Nov 2012 #104

he didn't get away with ANTHING -- he lost big KurtNYC Nov 2012 #106

Why wouldn't he be arrogant? ProSense Nov 2012 #114

WHAT? What plans for re-election? What was that about? Tx4obama Nov 2012 #126

Wonderful post. Captures everything I believe as well. kayakjohnny Nov 2012 #127

Ann and Mittens Milliesmom Nov 2012 #128

I agree ... And welcome to DU! Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #169

Thanks Milliesmom Nov 2012 #183

Oh man, I've been here 11 years and I don't know what I would have done without it during Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #186

I think somewhere in Mormon prophecy, he believed he was "destined" to make this HIS country. VPStoltz Nov 2012 #129

The reason I knew we were going to win is in your OP and grantcart Nov 2012 #132

It comes from his corporate experience liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #134

Pride cometh libodem Nov 2012 #156

The most important question was: Antisocial or Narcissistic? sofa king Nov 2012 #159

He believed having faith in a win would bring him victory. Qutzupalotl Nov 2012 #160

I agree Cali. k&r n/t Little Star Nov 2012 #165

I've been waking up with a smile everyday since last Wednesday. lexw Nov 2012 #166

His behavior is exactly what I expect from an egocentric sociopath. nt RedCappedBandit Nov 2012 #170

He's probably donned his State Trooper outfit Cheap_Trick Nov 2012 #172

Turns out Mr. Money can't buy dignity Blue Owl Nov 2012 #173

White House mgardener Nov 2012 #175

K&R. My schadenfreude cliffordu Nov 2012 #177