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alc

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6. it's not just the $
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 09:15 AM
Jan 2012

My city schools spend more $/student than suburbs and it doesn't help and they both spend more than many of the private schools. I have friends who who teach in the many different school districts and they ALL hate the requirements that come with federal funds. The federal requirements treat all schools the same, but they are not the same. There are different issues. What looks like success in one is not the same as another and the federal requirements don't consider nearly enough of the differences. The long term goal should be to change things so that they all succeed equally, but I don't see a way for that to happen through nationalizing the schools.

I think the best way is to give school districts more independence. They need support too ($ and other). And there should be oversight. But even if the feds disagree with their plan they should not automatically lose funding. We have a couple of school boards who should probably be in jail, but most of them understand their community and schools much better than the feds and are making progress by finding ways around federal requirements rather than following them.

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It is time to NATIONALIZE the schools! [View all] Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 OP
confused by your teacher-salary suggestions DrDan Jan 2012 #1
It would be interesting in a Federal system how seniority and retirement would work ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #3
exactly - like punishing a teacher for pursuing a further degree DrDan Jan 2012 #7
Bingo. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #8
You could factor in education and experience, but you have to incentivize people to work Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #4
ok - so a voluntary assignment in a lower-income area would provide extra pay DrDan Jan 2012 #9
It sounds similar to me to what happened in the univ. housing office I worked at The Genealogist Jan 2012 #31
I think you are a little behind the times. ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #2
Maybe not, but it eventually has to happen. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #5
In California, there are not major disparities since the state is the primary funding source ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #12
So there is no diffence in funding per county/school district? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #14
it's not just the $ alc Jan 2012 #6
I guarantee that if you equalized the money that you would have the 1% fighting for better Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #10
Not seeing that in California ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #15
May be too small a pool. I think nationally would be more effective. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #16
Do you really think that the 1% are sending their kids to public schools? exboyfil Jan 2012 #18
You are right. Probably more like the 5% or 10%. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Jan 2012 #11
I don't see what the problem is. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Jan 2012 #23
The problem is that is seems like rural schools are worse than their urban counterparts. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Jan 2012 #27
I think nationalization would also help even out the curriculum Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #28
That's one of the things I think that the feds would likely botch, HereSince1628 Jan 2012 #29
Yeah, those Okies and Jayhawks don't need no kemstry learnin. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #30
How does nationalization achieve this? brooklynite Jan 2012 #19
Do we know for a fact that all funding is equal in these schools exboyfil Jan 2012 #20
Yeah, lets reinvent the wheel. Problem with schools is the right wing attacks since the late 1970's. kickysnana Jan 2012 #21
I would normally agree, but not with Arne and his crop of ed-deformers running the show. liskddksil Jan 2012 #22
Exactly the problem and will always be the problem. former9thward Jan 2012 #24
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