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hunter

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13. Pournelle was no prize either.
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 10:07 AM
Jun 2023

He and I had some interesting conversations back in the day.

I'd had plenty of practice. My grandfather was a similar character, but thirty years older, which made Niven's and Pournelle's bigotries seem sort of stale from my perspective. My grandfather had joined the Army Air Corp before World War II to escape rural Montana and Wyoming, and was an Army Air Force officer during World War II. Along the way he'd mysteriously acquired a knack for metals like titanium that were then considered quite exotic and was later an engineer for the Apollo Project.

Fortunately for my grandpa, all his woke family, friends, and diverse people he worked with constantly challenged him so he was forced to evolve. When my wife and I announced our engagement my grandpa had a fit because men in his family simply didn't marry "Mexican girls" (as he'd called my wife), but to his credit he got over it. He'd been much more disappointed when I changed my college major from engineering to biology.

I'm not so sure Niven and Pournelle, collaborating with one another and traveling in the largely libertarian "hard science fiction" communities, always enjoyed the same opportunities for personal growth that my grandfather had.

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+1 n/t area51 Jun 2023 #20
Seperate the work from the writer. PurgedVoter Jun 2023 #2
A recent disappointment John Ludi Jun 2023 #4
A lot of people lost their minds when/since Obama was elected TwilightZone Jun 2023 #5
I guess the disconcerting thing John Ludi Jun 2023 #7
Agreed. TwilightZone Jun 2023 #9
Although I also enjoyed his earlier music robbob Jun 2023 #6
There was always that John Ludi Jun 2023 #8
Niven was an adviser to Reagan on the Strategic Defense Initiative, better known as "Star Wars" TwilightZone Jun 2023 #3
that guy who wrote the book with a race of non-sentient females? BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 2023 #10
Yes melm00se Jun 2023 #16
ok... i didn't read that far into the book.. BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 2023 #23
I knew. ismnotwasm Jun 2023 #11
Orson Scott Card Deep State Witch Jun 2023 #14
Oops--sorry! I better correct that ismnotwasm Jun 2023 #18
Orson Scott Card... hunter Jun 2023 #19
Never liked him. Seemed too impressed with himself. eppur_se_muova Jun 2023 #12
Pournelle was no prize either. hunter Jun 2023 #13
Larry collaborated with Jerry Pournelle for decades, and while I highplainsdem Jun 2023 #15
thank you for the additional (and troubling) information Celerity Jun 2023 #17
Speaking from my own youthful experiences... hunter Jun 2023 #22
I don't know the specifics of what happened, but... Rob H. Jun 2023 #21
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