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dalton99a

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24. +1. During the pandemic, carbon dioxide increased at the same rate despite lower emissions
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 11:45 AM
Jul 2023
https://magazine.caltech.edu/post/atmospheric-co2-covid-pandemic

A Climate Conundrum: Why Didn’t Atmospheric CO2 Fall During the Pandemic?

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“During previous socioeconomic disruptions, like the 1973 oil shortage, you could immediately see a change in the growth rate of CO2,” says David Schimel, head of JPL’s carbon group and a co-author of the study. “We all expected to see it this time, too.”

The study also examined atmospheric nitrogen oxide (NOx) levels. In the presence of sunlight, nitrogen oxides can react with other atmospheric compounds to create ozone, a gas that is a danger to human, animal, and plant health. Although the study found that COVID-related drops in nitrogen oxides led to a reduction in ozone in most places around the world, its satellite measurements uncovered a less positive effect of limiting NOx. Nitrogen oxides react to form a short-lived molecule called the hydroxyl radical, which plays an important role in breaking down long-lived gases in the atmosphere. By reducing NOx emissions—as beneficial as that was in cleaning up air pollution—the pandemic also limited the atmosphere’s ability to cleanse itself of another important greenhouse gas: methane.

Molecule for molecule, methane is far more effective than carbon dioxide at trapping heat in the atmosphere. Estimates of how much methane emissions dropped during the pandemic are uncertain, but one study calculated the reduction at 10 percent. However, as with carbon dioxide, the drop in emissions did not decrease the concentration of methane in the atmosphere. Instead, methane grew 0.3 percent faster in the past year than in the previous four—a faster rate than at any other time in the last decade. With less NOx there was less hydroxyl radical to scrub methane away.

Notably, emissions returned to near pre-pandemic levels by the latter part of 2020, despite reduced activity in many sectors of the economy.

“This suggests that reducing activity in these industrial and residential sectors is not practical in the short term” as a means of cutting emissions, the study noted. “Reducing these sectors’ emissions permanently will require their transition to low-carbon-emitting technology.”

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War and forest fires burn a lot of fuel. bucolic_frolic Jul 2023 #1
Greenhouse gases are invisible to the naked eye Kaleva Jul 2023 #2
+1. During the pandemic, carbon dioxide increased at the same rate despite lower emissions dalton99a Jul 2023 #24
Some greenhouse gases can remain in the atmosphere for generations Kaleva Jul 2023 #26
Not sure I understand your point. Are you saying that the heat is temporary and due to burned fuel? femmedem Jul 2023 #7
Something is causing this sudden spike. War and fires make a lot of heat. bucolic_frolic Jul 2023 #17
Ah, thanks. femmedem Jul 2023 #23
bucolic is implying there's a been a giant 'belch' of CO2 and heat from war and rampant fires Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #20
Thanks. n/t femmedem Jul 2023 #22
Many of us DUers will be facing severe hardships Kaleva Jul 2023 #3
If I lived in the southwest I'd be looking to move now. CrispyQ Jul 2023 #8
Fortunately, I live in a region predicted to be a climate change refuge Kaleva Jul 2023 #19
At lower elevations, say Phoenix greater urban complex, water is going to flow uphill to money... hunter Jul 2023 #37
Humanity's end will be more Mad Max than StarTrek. CrispyQ Jul 2023 #4
And yet, people don't seem to be making preparations. Kaleva Jul 2023 #6
Funny. I was just responding to you about the same. CrispyQ Jul 2023 #12
IMHO, denial is part of being human. Plus,people don't like change. Kaleva Jul 2023 #15
+1. Get roasted where you are, or go to Canada and get smoked dalton99a Jul 2023 #9
I always thought greed was the worst of the 7 deadly sins, CrispyQ Jul 2023 #13
+1 dalton99a Jul 2023 #14
Yep. ancianita Jul 2023 #31
It's the only thing that explains the complete lack of action. CrispyQ Jul 2023 #32
Agree. Human inertia at their level will kill humanity more than anything humanity itself tries to ancianita Jul 2023 #34
I still have some hope they'll be shocked into action when Mother Nature rejects their Visa cards... hunter Jul 2023 #38
And next year will break more records. Elessar Zappa Jul 2023 #5
Especially since China produces more greenhouse gases then ... Kaleva Jul 2023 #10
Yup. Elessar Zappa Jul 2023 #11
I agree with you that the focus ought to be on adapting Kaleva Jul 2023 #16
Yes. Delphinus Jul 2023 #44
Switching to a plant based diet is within everyone's control milestogo Jul 2023 #18
But to get everyone on the planet to do so is a high hurdle Kaleva Jul 2023 #25
That's just an excuse. milestogo Jul 2023 #28
Let us know when you get that done Kaleva Jul 2023 #29
I haven't eaten meat since 2010. milestogo Jul 2023 #30
I'm not being sbarky Kaleva Jul 2023 #36
it only takes 6000 miles of driving a gas-powered car to birth one new carbon baby GenXer47 Jul 2023 #21
Lol, it's not even close to essentially giving birth Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #27
Monday was the hottest day in 125,000 years, but that record was broken... LudwigPastorius Jul 2023 #33
Where is that coming from? former9thward Jul 2023 #39
Third paragraph of the OP's WashPo article. LudwigPastorius Jul 2023 #40
There is another link within the opening post link: Donkees Jul 2023 #41
If you follow links to links to links you finally get to this footnote. former9thward Jul 2023 #42
"Its (sic) a guess." LudwigPastorius Jul 2023 #43
Go ahead. former9thward Jul 2023 #45
It turns out James Inhofe was wrong Johonny Jul 2023 #35
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