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Sympthsical

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114. Maybe it's true, but it's also crazy strange

Wed Jul 12, 2023, 05:36 PM

Jul 2023

I say that as someone who worked for Amazon corporate for a time. Generally speaking, you don't just ring up customer service and get a name out of them. There is a process for that, usually when law enforcement is requesting it. Even then, it's rough. The sentence where the mother says it could possibly be the teacher. Where does that "possibly" come from?

It's a weird little qualifying phrase that got stuck in there and is doing allllllll of the heavy lifting in the story.

The whole story is awfully short on details. The child was traumatized? First question . . . uh . . . how? What were the parents telling a seven year-old? We get accusations of a "retaliatory environment" but zero details.

Hey, people do crazy stupid shit out of hatred. Maybe that happened here. But given how weird this story is, I want to see some receipts before getting the mob together for a twilight outing of tikis and hay-flingers.

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Teacher Accused of Mailing Afro Wig, White Face Paint to Mixed-Race 2nd-Grader [View all] BeckyDem Jul 2023 OP

Racism knows no boundaries, it is everywhere, in every state MagickMuffin Jul 2023 #1

Yet, this example seems very extreme--esp. for the school board to do NOTHING. And the riversedge Jul 2023 #5

Republican's have normalized hatred against the other and people act on it..imo. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #6

Going after a second grader. Nice look on a teacher. marble falls Jul 2023 #2

The depth of my disgust at the cowardly creature who did this is bottomless. Sue the lot of them. Joinfortmill Jul 2023 #3

Who would do this to a seven year old?! yardwork Jul 2023 #24

That teacher is weird. Hopefully never to teach again. jimfields33 Jul 2023 #4

Yes, seems parents have to act from such a guarded position. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #9

Unfortunately true today. jimfields33 Jul 2023 #13

Yea, the story is shocking to me because a teacher is involved and she is young too. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #15

Maybe she didn't do it. yardwork Jul 2023 #32

I read other articles. She did it. Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #41

I read other articles. She did it. Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #48

Where does that say that Amazon confirmed it? yardwork Jul 2023 #58

I sent you a link. Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #65

Reread the bolded type in your post. yardwork Jul 2023 #69

I don't get why you want to believe this is minority parent out for what they can get, but the Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #73

You're putting words in my mouth I didn't say. yardwork Jul 2023 #75

The teacher has an Amazon account, but how do we know someone else didn't get access to it? ShazzieB Jul 2023 #113

No where in the article does it say the teacher has an amazon account questionseverything Jul 2023 #135

There's no proof of any of their accusations. yardwork Jul 2023 #150

We also know the teacher, school and school board are denying it questionseverything Jul 2023 #165

Right, we know that too. yardwork Jul 2023 #167

Good summary questionseverything Jul 2023 #168

I am skeptical for one reason only: Contacting Amazon customer service is next to impossible. Coventina Jul 2023 #97

What makes you think the teacher is young? The link says she's been teaching since 2001. BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #89

A photo of her was posted in this thread, she seemed young to me. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #103

Looked Younger NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #115

Pure evil Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #7

Thank you, let her be known to all. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #10

Christine Rzasa. Rzasa is Polish for duckweed (literally pond scum) Celerity Jul 2023 #28

Maybe she didn't do it. yardwork Jul 2023 #30

In this article it says she "declined to comment." Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #144

It Sounds RobinA Jul 2023 #161

It sounds like someone following their lawyers advice questionseverything Jul 2023 #163

Are. You. Serious? Jilly_in_VA Jul 2023 #8

It's ok, the hatred unleashed since Trump's 2016 run for president is still going strong. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #11

Yeah, but Jilly_in_VA Jul 2023 #12

Good that you recognize it, Jilly. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #14

Trumpism just brought the same old 400 + years old racial powerhate constructs back to the fore Celerity Jul 2023 #37

I agree with this. I just feel the power of Trump is his ability to make people feel comfortable BeckyDem Jul 2023 #55

absolutely! Celerity Jul 2023 #82

What the actual fuck? Ocelot II Jul 2023 #16

It is shocking. The lawsuit, under depositions, should reveal a lot of the teachers motives. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #18

Well first ForgedCrank Jul 2023 #17

It is true, no hoax. I wish it were then no child would have truly been harmed. n/t BeckyDem Jul 2023 #19

I agree, ForgedCrank Jul 2023 #33

If the parents were involved, I would be shocked. Lawsuits like this involve a lot of turmoil BeckyDem Jul 2023 #36

Do we know for sure that any package was sent? yardwork Jul 2023 #39

Those are ForgedCrank Jul 2023 #46

You should delete this post...it is racist...I know you didn't intend it this way but it is. Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #53

Where does the article say that Amazon confirmed this? yardwork Jul 2023 #56

That story doesn't say that Amazon confirmed it. Mariana Jul 2023 #108

True. BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #87

Part of the complaint stipulates the child has received therapy as a result BeckyDem Jul 2023 #107

The therapist only knows what the kid says questionseverything Jul 2023 #164

You: The kid only knows what the parents have told him BeckyDem Jul 2023 #166

I do too. Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #74

I am a little skeptical, myself. yardwork Jul 2023 #26

There are ForgedCrank Jul 2023 #40

Right... and I keep coming back to the oddness of the package. yardwork Jul 2023 #66

The teacher is likely a viciously racist...there some who hate mixed race kids. This is not a kid's Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #76

Do we know the race of the teacher? BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #88

White Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #145

Amazon confirmed it was sent by the teacher. Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #50

Where does the article say that Amazon confirmed this? yardwork Jul 2023 #54

That news story doesn't say "Amazon confirmed it was sent by the teacher." Progressive Lawyer Jul 2023 #77

You can keep saying that... Zeitghost Jul 2023 #95

This country is going to hell. Initech Jul 2023 #20

Amazon NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #21

I am curious about the Amazon info too. Right now the school system is defending her. n/t BeckyDem Jul 2023 #27

Experiment NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #31

The article says that Amazon "refused a subpoena" but it's not clear who said that. yardwork Jul 2023 #34

Defamation / Libel NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #38

To be fair to the school's claim of innocence, we don't know details on how that info was revealed. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #42

So if Amazon resists government subpoenas, why would they reveal customer info to an ordinary person yardwork Jul 2023 #47

I know, I am curious about it as well. But I will ask this....is it possible an BeckyDem Jul 2023 #51

I don't know. Maybe? yardwork Jul 2023 #59

Yes they told the mother that is how she found out, and in the end Amazon will have to comply Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #62

Honsestly! They told the Mother. And will eventually comply with the subpoena. Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #63

Possibly? NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #92

My first ForgedCrank Jul 2023 #71

I can see it if it was delivered to another customer's house ecstatic Jul 2023 #128

It seems very off. BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #98

It really is frightening. yardwork Jul 2023 #99

Since when? BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #100

Ok, I did feel that last sentence was hyperbole. yardwork Jul 2023 #101

Yes, I am curious how they confirmed it. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #105

Lawyers will file suit at their client's direction as long as they are paid questionseverything Jul 2023 #127

Not all of them. This attorney doesn't seem to fit that profile. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #129

She's a "slip and fall " lawyer, that's exactly the profile questionseverything Jul 2023 #130

Her life experience couldn't possibly shape her approach to the law, according to you. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #132

I'm just going by how she advises her services questionseverything Jul 2023 #133

Apparently from the link below...she ordered it from Amazon and had it sent...that is how the Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #57

Just because ForgedCrank Jul 2023 #85

Agree. jeffreyi Jul 2023 #86

You would be surprised Jilly_in_VA Jul 2023 #110

According to this article, wnylib Jul 2023 #22

Who knows, they may have been advised to put up a good fight only hoping to settle later on. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #25

Or maybe they're not sure it's true. yardwork Jul 2023 #29

Correct NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #35

I don't know but the effort seems to be passive aggressive to the exteme. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #44

It just seems overly complicated, to me. yardwork Jul 2023 #49

Why I don't doubt it is because as a black woman I can't imagine putting my kid through BeckyDem Jul 2023 #52

Whoever is responsible for this is a messed up person, no doubt. yardwork Jul 2023 #61

Racism could be called a mental illness, I guess. wnylib Jul 2023 #67

Oh yes....very disturbing! BeckyDem Jul 2023 #68

Here's the sad part... yardwork Jul 2023 #79

Wow. I truly appreciate your sharing, the reality regarding human behavior is complicated by how BeckyDem Jul 2023 #102

Why did the teacher refuse to comment, then, if it is a hoax? Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #146

Would you? We have no idea what's really going on. yardwork Jul 2023 #151

Or....some people are dickheads Showbizkid Jul 2023 #149

True. Why would parents put their child through something like this wnylib Jul 2023 #64

Yes, that is how I see it for now. I'm not sure an attorney would file a case on their BeckyDem Jul 2023 #104

It is despicable to do that to a child. Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #70

I am so sorry your child went through that and for you too. I have witnessed schools take cover, BeckyDem Jul 2023 #116

I think that there are smug, cruel people wnylib Jul 2023 #45

The Mother called Amazon and they told her. Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #78

I read that, too. But it doesn't say what Amazon told her. wnylib Jul 2023 #80

They are stupid then. Apparently, Amazon confirmed it was order by and sent by the teacher. Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #60

Where did you get the information that Amazon confirmed the teacher sent the package? Progressive Lawyer Jul 2023 #72

Amazon told the Mom...how else would she know? Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #81

So someone makes an accusation, and therefore we must not critically examine the accusation? Progressive Lawyer Jul 2023 #83

It is not an accusation.Amazon told the Mother... Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #91

But This Article NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #94

WTF? What kind of person would do this to a child? zuul Jul 2023 #23

NJ ain't as blue as you think Jersey Devil Jul 2023 #43

Christine Rzasa needs to go through some things. ZonkerHarris Jul 2023 #84

Maybe the internet should tap the brakes before putting people "through some things" Sympthsical Jul 2023 #90

Well said. It's interesting how people's emotions take over. yardwork Jul 2023 #93

Maybe it's true, but it's also crazy strange Sympthsical Jul 2023 #114

Of course the child was traumatized. How would you feel as scipan Jul 2023 #117

If I were seven, I wouldn't understand it Sympthsical Jul 2023 #118

Agree it's not enough to "ruin someone's life". scipan Jul 2023 #119

That's fair Sympthsical Jul 2023 #120

Agree! scipan Jul 2023 #122

I kind of feel the same way Lurker Deluxe Jul 2023 #121

Actually I didn't see any proof in the article that there was a package questionseverything Jul 2023 #125

What kind of monster does this to a 7 year old child? Ms Rzasa is in desperate need of firing... Hekate Jul 2023 #96

First, establish guilt, then determine punishments. Igel Jul 2023 #106

Are you saying this is *yet another* DU post I should have passed by... Hekate Jul 2023 #109

Here's a question Showbizkid Jul 2023 #126

Maybe they thought it was from a grandparent or relative. I send such gifts to my grand-daughter Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #139

Post removed Post removed Jul 2023 #111

That is positively weird. The teacher thought this was a good idea??? bucolic_frolic Jul 2023 #112

So.....I don't believe a word of this Showbizkid Jul 2023 #123

And I'm a parent of a child ExWhoDoesntCare Jul 2023 #124

I am a teacher or was ...and I have seen bad teachers and pulled two of my own kids out of a Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #137

Gosh. We'll all get right on that. Scrivener7 Jul 2023 #142

The teacher has refused to comment. Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #147

That's the standard? Showbizkid Jul 2023 #148

It sounds to me like someone who has a lawyer. yardwork Jul 2023 #152

I don't doubt that there are people in this country that would do that tavernier Jul 2023 #131

The history of the case and its time line are not revealed. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #134

So it is the parents fault? Honestly, it was probably addressed to the kid...parents thought it Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #136

Parent's fault? tavernier Jul 2023 #138

No just in general read the posts... Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #140

I went back and read your post to see if I posted to the wrong person...Below is what you wrote. Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #141

The article doesn't say they showed it to the kid, or that the parents involved Scrivener7 Jul 2023 #143

The parents say this package was delivered in July 2022. yardwork Jul 2023 #154

That's one of the aspects of this that raises questions. yardwork Jul 2023 #153

That is not the full complaint as stated thus far. The response to the parents concerns BeckyDem Jul 2023 #155

Is this a year round school? yardwork Jul 2023 #156

You are free to believe the claim or not. I am not bothered by those who do or not. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #157

You posted the full complaint? I missed that. yardwork Jul 2023 #158

As we know it from the article I linked to. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #159

I want the full complaint to read. Showbizkid Jul 2023 #160

I think we all want to read it, not available yet as far as I know. BeckyDem Jul 2023 #162