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In reply to the discussion: Confession: I love Amazon. It is so easy for me to order something and have it at my door in one [View all]Celerity
(54,725 posts)19. Amazon's $185 Billion Pay-to-Play System

A new report shows that Amazon now takes 45 percent of all third-party sales on its website, part of the companys goal to become a monopoly gatekeeper for economic transactions.
https://prospect.org/power/2023-09-21-amazons-185-billion-pay-to-play-system/

Amazon now takes 45 cents in fees out of every dollar of third-party sales at its marketplace, according to updated statistics in a new report from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance. The e-commerce giants extraction from third-party sales revenue was just 19 percent in 2014. It grew to 27 percent in 2017, 35 percent in 2020, and reached 45 percent this year, according to ILSRs figures. This has imposed significant pressure on sellers ability to make a profit, and is contributing to inflation woes as fees get passed on to customers in the form of higher prices. Overall, Amazon is projected to make $185 billion in fees from third-party sellers in 2023: $125 billion from U.S. third-party sellers and another $60 billion from foreign-market businesses and vendor ads. In 2014, that number was $13 billion. Put another way, in nine years, Amazon has increased its fee revenue 14-fold.
The fees far exceed Amazons costs. For example, Amazon has already made $82 billion in fees from domestic and foreign third-party sellers in the first half of 2023, enough to cover all of its fulfillment facilities, which ship products sold by both third-party sellers and Amazon itself. In other words, Amazon doesnt have to build warehousing and shipping costs into the price of its own products, because its found a way to get smaller online sellers to pay those costs, writes Stacy Mitchell, ILSRs co-executive director and author of the report. In this sense, the third-party seller fees subsidize the below-cost sales that allow Amazon to drive competitors out of the market. ILSRs updated numbers are roughly in line with other analyses like that of Marketplace Pulse, which estimated earlier this year that nearly 52 percent of third-party seller revenue is captured by Amazon.
Third-party seller exploitation is likely to be a major facet of the Federal Trade Commissions antitrust case against Amazon, which is expected to be filed soon. The reason that third-party sellers dont just leave the platform, given this abuse, is that Amazon has grabbed so much control of online commerce that these sellers cant just bypass it. Amazons dominance of online retail means that businesses that make or sell products have little choice but to rely on its site to reach customers, ILSR writes. Most third-party businesses on Amazon dont survive, in fact, at least not ones based in the U.S. Of the top 10,000 sellers on the site, more than half are based in China, according to data from Marketplace Pulse.

Amazon fees on third-party sellers fall into three main buckets: referral fees, advertising fees, and fulfillment fees. The referral fee is a straight off-the-top commission for the privilege of selling on Amazon, and that totals 15 percent for most products. Advertising and fulfillment have been the growth areas for Amazon. Advertising fees do not come from what most laymen would think of as traditional advertising. Much of it comes in the form of businesses paying to list products in Amazons search results under labels like highly rated (which often have nothing to do with the rating of the products). As with Google, those who get the visible space at the top of search listings are paying for it; those who do not are pushed to the bottom of search, typically unseen by customers. Because Amazons organic search favors products with more sales, ILSR writes, paying for search ads that boost sales increases a businesss listing in organic search as well. Referral and search ad fees combined have increased by almost 50 percent since 2017.
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Confession: I love Amazon. It is so easy for me to order something and have it at my door in one [View all]
CTyankee
Sep 2023
OP
I prefer to shop for groceries, but a little at a time to save wear and tear on my back.
CTyankee
Sep 2023
#5
Amazon is not so bad...the workers I know are please mostly. They get good benefits right away.
Demsrule86
Sep 2023
#6
And their prices reflect it. They are often no bargain exceeding other big box places many
Wonder Why
Sep 2023
#22
I know workers at Amazon...it isn't a miserable job. You may be surprised that Starbucks is
Demsrule86
Sep 2023
#27
I order a lot from L.L.Bean. I get "bean bucks" by using their MC so that encourages my shopping
CTyankee
Sep 2023
#10
We use Amazon a lot because we live in an extreme rural area and it's an hour drive to
A Brand New World
Sep 2023
#35
Local retailers don't answer the phone, so, you have to drive all over just to find out they don't s
lindysalsagal
Sep 2023
#39
I dropped Target from my response because I don't do any business with them. I do on line
GoodRaisin
Oct 2023
#85
I avoid Walmart and all the local big box stores like the plague, Amazon for me
Shanti Shanti Shanti
Sep 2023
#47
Derp, so some random scammer refunded money to my Amazon account? Not believing
Shanti Shanti Shanti
Sep 2023
#70
I just bought a pair of Lee denim stretch black jeans on Amazon this morning. $23 plus
Raftergirl
Sep 2023
#52
We were bitten by the Amazon bug abut ten years ago and yused them until recently.
Torchlight
Oct 2023
#80