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In reply to the discussion: This is what the Nazis did... [View all]bigtree
(86,302 posts)147. they most assuredly will not grant amnesty
...and Hamas will not voluntarily disarm.
If history is any guide, there will be more killings, more deaths and maiming on both sides before there's some possibility of any long-term assuagement of violence.
We advocate or counsel this or that from our U.S. catbird seats, but the unacceptable violence Hamas perpetrated against Israel's citizens decidedly determined what happens next.
'How say you, war or not?
Not war, if possible,
Lest from the abuse of war,
The desecrated shrine, the trampled year,
The smouldering homestead, and the household flower
Torn from the lintelall the common wrong
A smoke go up through which I loom to her
Three times a monster: now she lightens scorn
At him that mars her plan, but then would hate
(And every voice she talked with ratify it,
And every face she looked on justify it)
The general foe. More soluble is this knot,
By gentleness than war. I want her love.
What were I nigher this although we dashed
Your cities into shards with catapults,
She would not love;or brought her chained, a slave,
The lifting of whose eyelash is my lord,
Not ever would she love; but brooding turn
The book of scorn, till all my flitting chance
Were caught within the record of her wrongs,
And crushed to death: and rather, Sire, than this
I would the old God of war himself were dead,
Forgotten, rusting on his iron hills,
Rotting on some wild shore with ribs of wreck,
Or like an old-world mammoth bulked in ice,
Not to be molten out.
__Tennyson
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Can we get the names if the people who did that? Their identities? Then, have at it.
lostnfound
Oct 2023
#104
No one of any religion should be supporting a civilian siege and slaughter of 2 million.
Alexander Of Assyria
Oct 2023
#12
Review a map of Gaza...2 million people... half a million children? Kill them all is not a sentiment
Alexander Of Assyria
Oct 2023
#14
What do you expect Israel to do? Not attack Hamas just because they're in Gaza?
Marius25
Oct 2023
#87
Gaza is not the 3rd most densely populated region. I'm not sure where that comes from
Marius25
Oct 2023
#119
Israel doesn't behead babies. Sorry, the only terrorists here are Hamas and its supporters.
Marius25
Oct 2023
#57
UN experts clearly mapping the legal basis of the war crimes. All. Both sides. It's easy to find!
Alexander Of Assyria
Oct 2023
#53
Apparently a simple truth being vigorously avoided in any discussion, more so by mass media!
Alexander Of Assyria
Oct 2023
#18
Yes I do believe that the government of Israel has cut food, power, water an fuel
Chainfire
Oct 2023
#46
Revenge is not retaliation...and actually retaliation is not self defence either.
Alexander Of Assyria
Oct 2023
#54
Retaliation in self defense is a legitimate response to an attack of any kind.
Beastly Boy
Oct 2023
#65
At the cost of...of many innocent lives and destruction would be a fair calculus?
Alexander Of Assyria
Oct 2023
#101
The issue isn't that, it's...ok with wiping out city of 2 million in the process? Yes or no?
Alexander Of Assyria
Oct 2023
#19
Source of dubious 'beheaded babies' claim is Israeli settler leader who incited riots to 'wipe out'
Kire
Oct 2023
#141
Yeah, but lots of people refuse to admit that anti-Zionism can be Antisemitism
Marius25
Oct 2023
#80
How do you most effectively eliminate the potential for this to happen again?
GumboYaYa
Oct 2023
#77
If you don't understand, "What the Nazis did"....Watch the movie..."Night and Fog" 30 minutes.
Stuart G
Oct 2023
#85
I realize nobody wants to harm children, but the Palestinian kids are indoctrinated by Hamas
Ziggysmom
Oct 2023
#153