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Hekate

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79. A previous post of the OP's that turned out to be erroneous got a lot of attention before...
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 05:35 PM
Oct 2023

Last edited Mon Oct 16, 2023, 06:41 PM - Edit history (1)

… being shut down by the OP. Many people believed on their say-so that MSNBC had fired their Muslim reporters/anchors, and got very angry. Many people also debunked the claim thoroughly, but every new respondent to the thread saw only the OP and joined the anger at the presumptive injustice. 138 replies ain’t chicken feed.

Note to Jury: This is readily available DU public record. I participated in that thread, having seen Ali Velshi reporting from the war zone many times in the previous days, obviously still in the employ of MSNBC.

My point is that once again the OP is being requested to verify their sources, and to examine said sources carefully. Once again, every person responding is having their emotions whipsawed. One of the more rational has pointed out that “the making and release of execution videos is an established terrorist tactic, but out of character for the IDF.” I think that’s well worth considering.

Second note to Jury: I think the issue of legitimate sourcing is also well worth considering. It’s in our TOS, after all.




This is a blatant war crime....... [View all] AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 OP
Friedman was saying this morning in the NYT that Israel maxsolomon Oct 2023 #1
Good. Let's sort it out at the end of this with an investigation and not Twitter. jimfields33 Oct 2023 #2
Interesting take of yours to support murdering prisoners. That means it's okay for both sides right? ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #48
Your sentence is unreadable. There's something missing. jimfields33 Oct 2023 #50
fixed ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #53
Where is SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #55
Thank you. No I don't condone it at all. jimfields33 Oct 2023 #60
Yes it is claudette Oct 2023 #3
I was pretty sure after Hamas homicidal run thru the Kibbutz the IDF... EX500rider Oct 2023 #4
Does Abu Ghraib ring any bells? AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #13
Don't recall any prisoners massacred there EX500rider Oct 2023 #16
Neither do I, but some people are pretty loose in their use of terms. wnylib Oct 2023 #52
People forget.. AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #85
As irrelevant to the current situation as the rest of wnylib Oct 2023 #87
Nah AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #108
Manadel al-Jamadi AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #83
A prisoner does not a massacrer make though does it EX500rider Oct 2023 #95
War crimes are war crimes AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #109
What is your point exactly and what does it have to do with Hamas Vs Israel? EX500rider Oct 2023 #110
Yes but some folks are never punished malaise Oct 2023 #117
Can you ForgedCrank Oct 2023 #41
so you think matching a war crime with another is the right thing to do? ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #51
. wnylib Oct 2023 #54
Just pointed out that historically when one side commits atrocities the other side... EX500rider Oct 2023 #56
The height of rationalization ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #57
How calm and rational were you when you were in the midst of combat? wnylib Oct 2023 #61
Or the height of reality EX500rider Oct 2023 #62
The Geneva Convention choie Oct 2023 #146
Article is paywalled. BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #5
Posted an archive link AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #10
HRW said there is a video. Neither the video nor a link is posted on their website. lapucelle Oct 2023 #38
Surprise, surprise. That is a consistent pattern with a few posters. wnylib Oct 2023 #59
"Doctor's" [sic] are very busy people. lapucelle Oct 2023 #65
Yes, I've noticed. Hard to miss. wnylib Oct 2023 #66
Note the date cited for the missing mystery video. AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #23
The tweet comes from HRW. N/T lapucelle Oct 2023 #28
Well spotted, AZSkiffyGeek. This particular drumbeat is getting very old. Hekate Oct 2023 #33
The problem is that the "publish" date might not be the "videoed date". Igel Oct 2023 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Oct 2023 #92
Israel isn't part of the ICC ripcord Oct 2023 #6
Because Israel is a nation and Hamas is a terrorist organization. maxsolomon Oct 2023 #8
Was going to say the same. redqueen Oct 2023 #9
So that makes their actions okay? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #19
Of course not claudette Oct 2023 #25
Why, is Hamas part of the ICC? unweird Oct 2023 #14
Because it gave them standing to bring cases before the ICC. Igel Oct 2023 #89
Neither are we AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #15
Or the use of cluster munitions imo. nt redqueen Oct 2023 #17
Yup agreed AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #18
IDF is waterboarding prisoners at Abu Ghraib now? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #21
Why are you.... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #112
Why not ask the poster why they are making ridiculous false equivalencies AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #119
You think war crimes... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #121
When did I say he wrote the Tweet? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #122
ummm.... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #123
Well thank you for the correction AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #125
Maybe the poster... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #127
Things like that, make it harder for those.. Omnipresent Oct 2023 #7
Post removed Post removed Oct 2023 #11
Fuck GD Murdering Baby Killer Fucking ASSholes HAMAS. Cha Oct 2023 #12
Terrorists aren't playing by the rules of war Calculating Oct 2023 #20
Apparently because they aren't an army they don't have to AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #22
Wrong. Again. Because they are terrorists, no one expects them to. redqueen Oct 2023 #40
Now do Iraq AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #24
Not sure what your point is... AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #27
The point is "Quick! Look over here! N/T lapucelle Oct 2023 #29
The point is "US is the same as Hamas. Bad America, always. Israel is worse than Hamas. Evil Israel" Hekate Oct 2023 #34
Ok I have to admit SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #36
If true, alternate title, "Video shows terrorist trash who fucked around and found out." Jedi Guy Oct 2023 #26
Is your OP intended to be sympathetic to Hamas? Claritie Pixie Oct 2023 #30
Imagine inferring "Blatant War Crimes" from "The video appears to show..." lapucelle Oct 2023 #31
The video isn't even mentioned in the article AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #39
I know. That's why HRW linked to a paywalled story. lapucelle Oct 2023 #42
Wonder when this thread will be deleted... AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #44
Agree SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #47
Because ALL their posts about this conflict edhopper Oct 2023 #107
yep Dorian Gray Oct 2023 #140
"Appears to show" DavidDvorkin Oct 2023 #32
It appears that the video that appears to show is apocryphal. N/T lapucelle Oct 2023 #43
It is cruel and unusual punishment LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #35
What do you propose that Israel (or Ukraine) do do defend themselves? Please do tell. Hekate Oct 2023 #37
Well inthewind21 Oct 2023 #46
To save others? SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #49
Oh, you would, would you? Act_of_Reparation Oct 2023 #68
😂😂 SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #70
You haven't answered the question SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #58
I notice the answer is always what not to do. BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #101
For starters, do not tell me what you think I am "perfectly ok with." I asked you a question... Hekate Oct 2023 #72
So I went to archive link SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #45
Ya I'm not posting the video AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #63
If you've SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #64
I'm rather certain you won't. Torchlight Oct 2023 #67
Copy the link, type a space in it to "break" it and then post the broken link here. lapucelle Oct 2023 #69
Post removed Post removed Oct 2023 #71
The "thirty doctor's" (sic) who post on this account seem to be unified in some regards Hekate Oct 2023 #74
Right. Dorian Gray Oct 2023 #142
Oh? I don't? AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #80
I have an open mind, but I am skeptical. WheelWalker Oct 2023 #73
All your points are salient, especially #3 Hekate Oct 2023 #75
Don't you wish that sometimes such a post could be moved to #1 position? Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2023 #82
Yes I do Hekate Oct 2023 #86
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Oct 2023 #91
Your speculation why the IDF would make and distribute a video of their apparent "war crime"? WheelWalker Oct 2023 #111
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Oct 2023 #114
Thank you. I edited my reply to your post to recite my confusion. WheelWalker Oct 2023 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Oct 2023 #118
Strength and honor. WheelWalker Oct 2023 #136
okay... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #138
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Oct 2023 #139
No, well, I don't have an account... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #141
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Oct 2023 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Oct 2023 #76
I'm interested SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Oct 2023 #78
Nobody here on DU is a "Hamas propagandist" AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #81
Where is the video? SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #84
Because the rules state no overly graphic violence AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Oct 2023 #93
There are 2 videos AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Oct 2023 #97
There are 2 AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Oct 2023 #104
Why exactly is it unfortunate for me? AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #105
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Oct 2023 #106
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Oct 2023 #94
I have seen both videos AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #98
There are any number of ways SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #100
No it speaks to compassion & empathy of others AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #102
No one is asking SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #103
What is the handle of the person on twitter Dorian Gray Oct 2023 #143
A previous post of the OP's that turned out to be erroneous got a lot of attention before... Hekate Oct 2023 #79
Thank you Hekate Dorian Gray Oct 2023 #144
You're welcome Hekate Oct 2023 #145
Both sides have been committing war crimes since the Jewish state was founded and even before that. totodeinhere Oct 2023 #113
I don't understand why... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #120
I don't understand why the OP made up a war crime but wants others to find his wvidence AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #124
But I read upthread... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #128
Why should someone else do the OP's work? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #131
Okay... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #133
Why? lapucelle Oct 2023 #137
Lulz. Or keep an eye on. Hekate Oct 2023 #147
I don't understand why the person SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #126
But TomConroy says... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #129
Who knows if its the same video? SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #130
For a valid reason in my opinion... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #132
No one is asking the OP to post video SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #134
Okay now you're just playing games. Think. Again. Oct 2023 #135
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