General Discussion

Hekate

(91,471 posts)

17. The implied clause "fled the government of" was perfectly clear to me

Fri Oct 27, 2023, 08:29 AM

Oct 2023

Last edited Fri Oct 27, 2023, 11:49 AM - Edit history (1)

If one wants to quibble, people started leaving England for the New World seeking religious freedom far earlier than the reign of King George III.

My own first ancestor here was a Dissenter came to Massachusetts in the 1600s, because of persecution and threat of execution — a Protestant who was not the right kind of Protestant, in a kingdom where Church and State were as one.

Which is the point.

Edited to add this from your OP:

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

45 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Jamie Raskin...why we have two religion clauses in the First Amendment. [View all] littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 OP

George III ? Omnipresent Oct 2023 #1

Because everyone knows about Prime Minister North EYESORE 9001 Oct 2023 #2

It's always inaccurate to blame a powerless king. Omnipresent Oct 2023 #5

Maybe this will help you with your comfort zone on the issue... littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #7

The king was like trump, an agitator, but still powerless. Omnipresent Oct 2023 #18

... littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #27

"We're in a revolution, damn it! We have to offend somebody!" Wednesdays Oct 2023 #32

Why should North's place in history be left unscathed? Omnipresent Oct 2023 #35

You say you want a revolution? stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #39

Here's a link to Ms. Peterson's Xitter profile so you can direct your inquiry to the appropriate individual. littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #26

The implied clause "fled the government of" was perfectly clear to me Hekate Oct 2023 #17

Mine too, in 1604 to what later became Craven County, North Carolina littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #21

I did an independent study on the two religion clauses in the First Amendment no_hypocrisy Oct 2023 #4

I see what you mean. 70sEraVet Oct 2023 #19

To avoid the government from no_hypocrisy Oct 2023 #20

Religious organizations have to follow the same rules as secular. Dr. Strange Oct 2023 #22

Kick. Rec. Bookmark. Hekate Oct 2023 #6

Thanks, Hekate. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #9

So help me, me DFW Oct 2023 #8

Ha! Thanks for sharing this, DFW. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #10

Well put!! n/t DFW Oct 2023 #11

Right back at you, DFW! littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #15

Thank you for posting this... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #12

You're welcome, Think. Again.. Thank you for your reply. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #23

Also, the oath of office specified in the Constitution makes no mention of a deity. onenote Oct 2023 #13

Thanks for your reply, onenote. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #14

Nor does it require any props such as bibles, other books, or totems, whatever to "swear on"...nt Wounded Bear Oct 2023 #28

Kick dalton99a Oct 2023 #16

Bertrand Russell quote (FTW, you decide) 303squadron Oct 2023 #24

I was thinking about this last night. He believes he's divinely ordained... littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #29

But mine is the One True Religion! All those others are evil and blasphemous! Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2023 #25

Also Section 3, Article 6, USC sarge43 Oct 2023 #30

About the Oath of Office... Wednesdays Oct 2023 #31

We've already had a Muslim as a Rep or Senator... slightlv Oct 2023 #33

Keith Ellison Caliman73 Oct 2023 #34

Thank you for remembering his name! slightlv Oct 2023 #36

Could have used a Tanakh or a roll of toilet paper. Igel Oct 2023 #40

I doubt most Americans today understand the meaning of the establishment clause or separation of church and state. Is Pepsidog Oct 2023 #37

Love Jamie Raskin True Dough Oct 2023 #38

❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #42

It's why I say the pledge with, "one nation under law" because Captain Zero Oct 2023 #41

Historian Richard B. Morris identified seven figures as key Founders Major Nikon Oct 2023 #43

Thanks so much for sharing this, Major Nikon. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #44

People are now afraid of hearing the truth Tree Lady Oct 2023 #45