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In reply to the discussion: Poll: Do you believe Israel is committing genocide against the population of Gaza? [View all]haele
(12,686 posts)Genocide is what Hamas and their ilk want, since Israel was carved out of what was previously Palestine. And Israeli hardliners have been practicing Ethnic Cleansing in the name of national defense since 1946 when they started destroying long established Palestinian villages and farms -and continue to murder the residents who stay - to create buffer zones for the influx of settlers that wanted more farmland than originally allotted by the UN in the West Bank.
Can't have Arabs living too close to Jews was the thinking by radicals and nationalists on both sides - and I hate both-siderisms.
Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing are ethical and moral evils. Doesn't matter to what degree. Gone is gone. Dead is dead. Innocents still die, hatred is still being fertilized, horrors increase as "The Enemy" becomes less than human and it's okay to treat them with less dignity than one treats vermin in the house or yard. Make them suffer to teach them a lesson.
They both have to stop. How? F**k if I know. "They're going to kill us all" is what all sides are using as justification.
All I see is the cycle continuing. No one in power in this current conflict has ever wanted peace with the other; they've swept aside any moderation to hang onto their own power - and innocents suffer.
Hardline Right Wingers -and not just those in the immediate region - are feeding off this conflict. The Right Wingers are pouring money into the region to fire up a Final Battle.
Gawd's Tradition against Western Values, Gog and Magog, The End Times, Lead or Water, from the River to the Sea - that's in play here. Not just Israel and Palestine moving border boundaries.
Call me anti-Semitic if you want. Call me anti-Muslim if you want. I'm anti-Nationalist and anti-Terrorist, which should indicate it doesn't matter to me what particular side's blood is being spilled or what degree of barbarous indignity citizens are facing. Again - dead is dead. Threats are threats. Tortured is tortured. Displaced is displaced.
But understand this from someone who has a bit more than a passing knowledge of history and the various reasons why wars break out..
This one of those times in history where Nationalist True Believers and their fellow travellers have taken over and pushed the envelope so hard it broke for their agendas and for profit; those types don't stop just because we all plead for them to think about the innocents that are becoming victims minute by minute. They don't care. It's now a personal Holy War, and they all want to make you take just two simplistic sides instead of taking a peek behind the curtain to see those who really are pushing these conflicts.
Haele