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ExWhoDoesntCare

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38. Oh FFS

Fri Nov 10, 2023, 01:38 PM

Nov 2023

Stop with this ridiculous assertion about Hillary and Wisconsin.

1) She had a visit scheduled there but couldn't make it (having senior moment here for why).

2) There is zero evidence that going to the state would have affected the vote.

Really.

The results of this analysis do not clearly support either of the assumptions made by Clinton’s critics. In general, none of the presidential or vice presidential candidates – including Clinton – significantly influenced voting via campaign visits.

https://ecommons.udayton.edu/pol_fac_pub/116/

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With Stein announcing and Manchin implying... [View all] CincyDem Nov 2023 OP

RWers money at it's fineness........ Lovie777 Nov 2023 #1

so RFK jr flamed out as someone that can make Trump win lapfog_1 Nov 2023 #2

Lots! PortTack Nov 2023 #16

I have plenty of labels for Manchin and Stein. dchill Nov 2023 #19

I agree but wonder what multiple third party candidates would do? Guess it depends who they are more attractive to... dutch777 Nov 2023 #3

I think you're right. To start now and manage to get on all 50 ballots..not sure that's doable PortTack Nov 2023 #17

stein jumps in to RF for Putin.. 2016 wasn't enough for that RF. Cha Nov 2023 #4

I've always had my suspicions about Manchin and Putin BannonsLiver Nov 2023 #5

Yep. Here's the worrying thing to me... CincyDem Nov 2023 #6

If the Dems control the house, then it won't go to the states one vote one state. That's the step beyond PortTack Nov 2023 #15

Those were 2016 votes, though... tinrobot Nov 2023 #23

Yes I know.. but she's still RF for Putin. She doesn't care about Cha Nov 2023 #29

She's Putin's darling Give Peace A Chance Nov 2023 #7

Like it was yesterday. And she's never been held to account by the third party fans. n/t. CincyDem Nov 2023 #8

There are a lot of what we used to call "fellow travelers" erronis Nov 2023 #20

I wish the media (print, online, and broadcast) would do a better job explaining how third-party Lonestarblue Nov 2023 #9

But it wouldn't serve the media's interests in debunking crazy stuff. erronis Nov 2023 #21

I don't see how that's the media's responsibility. TwilightZone Nov 2023 #25

"Democrats: Trust the Courage of Your Convictions! " lees1975 Nov 2023 #10

I fully agree GAJMac Nov 2023 #11

Not sure how many times this has mzmolly Nov 2023 #12

I know. It's infuriating. CincyDem Nov 2023 #13

Republicans lining manchin's pockets. They know they can't win so once again let's get our ol friend PortTack Nov 2023 #14

Manchin I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2023 #32

Manchin won't run for president. There is no proof. LeftInTX Nov 2023 #18

I think most Democrats are wise to Stein tinrobot Nov 2023 #22

yeah - the hilliary hate was strong in that one. CincyDem Nov 2023 #27

I am GENERALLY Pro Democracy kwolf68 Nov 2023 #24

Somewhere a GOP mathematician is working overtime Blue Owl Nov 2023 #26

Somewhere a GOP mathematician is working overtime Blue Owl Nov 2023 #28

This clip featuring Rachel Maddow says it all. LaMouffette Nov 2023 #30

Never underestimate the ability of some on the Left to stupidly vote for a 3rd party candidate. elocs Nov 2023 #31

Oh FFS ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #38

No, I won't stop, but I will ignore you. Sounds like a plan to me. n/t elocs Nov 2023 #43

The wavering support for our guy is creating a void in the middle randr Nov 2023 #33

If we have a re-do of 2016, I'm gonna be REALLY unhappy. (nt) Paladin Nov 2023 #34

This should be preached far and wide SouthernDem4ever Nov 2023 #35

Well, good luck getting that message through ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #39

I no longer try, I just call em what they are SouthernDem4ever Nov 2023 #44

The only people who will be fooled this time around are the "Democrats" who would not have voted for LiberalArkie Nov 2023 #36

Too many on the Left can't seem to grasp the simple concept that American partisan politics is binary, elocs Nov 2023 #37

Maybe Manchin can run with Sinema on the Obstructionist Party ticket? sop Nov 2023 #40

Just show those pictures of Jill stein with Putin all over left leaning sites and she's toast. kimbutgar Nov 2023 #41

I see Jill Stein is still taking her marching orders from her good buddy, Vlad Putin. Texin Nov 2023 #42