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Hekate

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56. Nice Greek letters: Chi Ro, look like X P overlaid
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:54 AM
Nov 2012
http://www.cresourcei.org/symbols/xmasorigin.html

Abbreviations used as Christian symbols have a long history in the church. The letters of the word "Christ" in Greek, the language in which the New Testament was written, or various titles for Jesus early became symbols of Christ and Christianity. For example, the first two letters of the word Christ (cristoV, or as it would be written in older manuscripts, CRISTOS) are the Greek letters chi (c or C) and rho (r or R). These letters were used in the early church to create the chi-rho monogram (see Christian Symbols: Christmas Ornaments), a symbol that by the fourth century became part of the official battle standard of the emperor Constantine. >snip<

The exact origin of the single letter X for Christ cannot be pinpointed with certainty. Some claim that it began in the first century AD along with the other symbols, but evidence is lacking. >snip<
In any case, by the fifteenth century Xmas emerged as a widely used symbol for Christmas. >snip<

In religious publications, the church began to use the abbreviation C, or simply X, for the word "Christ" to cut down on the cost of the books and pamphlets. From there, the abbreviation moved into general use in newspapers and other publications, and "Xmas" became an accepted way of printing "Christmas" (along with the abbreviations Xian and Xianity). >snip<

So there is no grand scheme to dilute Christianity by promoting the use of Xmas instead of Christmas. It is not a modern invention to try to convert Christmas into a secular day, nor is it a device to promote the commercialism of the holiday season. Its origin is thoroughly rooted in the heritage of the Church. It is simply another way to say Christmas, drawing on a long history of symbolic abbreviations used in the church. In fact, as with other abbreviations used in common speech or writing (such as Mr. or etc.), the abbreviation "Xmas" should be pronounced "Christmas" just as if the word were written out in full, rather than saying "exmas." Understanding this use of Christian symbolism might help us modern day Xians focus on more important issues of the Faith during Advent, and bring a little more Peace to the Xmas Season. >snip<
We should keep Christ in Christmas SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #1
. trailmonkee Nov 2012 #14
Yow!!!! Wait, I like it... SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #43
ditto trailmonkee Nov 2012 #72
I plan to pass on most of the holiday hoo-ha. agracie Nov 2012 #29
It's all about marketing, sales and $$$$$ anyway. I'm fed up with it all too. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #95
Lets put the X back in Xmas. lob1 Nov 2012 #40
I have a strong feeling that X would be cool with it! SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #44
Nice Greek letters: Chi Ro, look like X P overlaid Hekate Nov 2012 #56
Damn, I can't even mock someone right. lob1 Nov 2012 #58
See my reply to northoftheborder Hekate Nov 2012 #98
interesting history - thanks - I didn't know all of that northoftheborder Nov 2012 #90
When I was a little kid I was snarked at by another little kid Hekate Nov 2012 #97
And add 2 more - XXXmas. Daemonaquila Nov 2012 #59
That's a holiday I can get behind Matt_in_STL Nov 2012 #76
Yeah, because otherwise it's just "mas." KatyaR Nov 2012 #93
xtians mischaracterize their own propaganda - the baby was jesus, the killed one was the christ nt msongs Nov 2012 #2
Didn't the Supreme Court rule that Cmas roody Nov 2012 #3
Don't log onto Facebook for the next 6 weeks. justice1 Nov 2012 #4
Too late... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #12
Yeah, now Halloween isn't soon enough. RC Nov 2012 #36
Christ, in Christmas, needs to be kept. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #5
damn it!!!! why why!!!! trailmonkee Nov 2012 #16
Xmas. dchill Nov 2012 #33
We likewise need to keep Eostre in Easter. eShirl Nov 2012 #6
You've heard of rabbits? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #64
We need to keep Saturn in Saturnalia! Fozzledick Nov 2012 #7
now that has a familiar ring!! n/t oldhippydude Nov 2012 #8
wow that was so bad, and good trailmonkee Nov 2012 #17
And Festive in Festivus! pinboy3niner Nov 2012 #21
We learned about Saturnalia in Latin class way back in high school. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2012 #32
And porn in pornography? SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #45
Just tell 'em you don't celebrate Christmas, you celebrate Saturnalia--and you want Moonwalk Nov 2012 #9
And not only that, but Bohunk68 Nov 2012 #77
If they're a Protestant customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #10
Beat me to it jberryhill Nov 2012 #11
I laugh with your cow! n/t customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #30
As a Catholic, I suspect their reply would be Luther's: It's not in the Bible. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #65
The date on which Jesus was born isn't in the Bible either.... Moonwalk Nov 2012 #94
A good one! treestar Nov 2012 #88
But you'll still go to the mall right? Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #13
You must be fun at parties. nt Union Scribe Nov 2012 #15
I stay away from Christmas parties... most others, I'm cool with trailmonkee Nov 2012 #18
Better yet, ask them if they put up a tree. If they are tell them they're a pagan and will burn. LeftyMom Nov 2012 #19
I still prefer Festivus catbyte Nov 2012 #20
Tell them you'll do it when Chick Fil la says Christmas in their TV commercials instead of RB TexLa Nov 2012 #22
If you want to keep Christ in Christmas, don't go to the Mall to celebrate, hedgehog Nov 2012 #23
I am a progressive Christian Nonhlanhla Nov 2012 #24
Well Welcome to DU! You sound like fun. nolabear Nov 2012 #25
Solstice is the old calendar station Coyotl Nov 2012 #67
If one wants to keep Christ in Christmas, say "Christmas." Atman Nov 2012 #26
Atheistmas? defacto7 Nov 2012 #47
Oh, I like that. "Happy Atheistmas!" I'm going to start saying that.... Moonwalk Nov 2012 #96
Really? That's your reaction? flvegan Nov 2012 #27
no one will be hurt, i promise.... but, it does irritate the hell out of me trailmonkee Nov 2012 #35
Remember Christmas for what it really is Drale Nov 2012 #28
LMAO! pitbullgirl1965 Nov 2012 #81
It was on South Park /nt Drale Nov 2012 #83
I fully support in keeping the x in xmas... cynatnite Nov 2012 #31
We can't have Yule without Yu Tree-Hugger Nov 2012 #34
On The Day After Thanksgiving, I'm Posting This Picture On My Facebook Page ChoppinBroccoli Nov 2012 #37
+1 trailmonkee Nov 2012 #38
That pretty much sums it up for me, It's about tolerance and being respectful towards other people rainlillie Nov 2012 #69
Happy Isaac Newtonmas!!! Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2012 #39
You and your littlemissmartypants Nov 2012 #53
I love it! LeftofObama Nov 2012 #61
as opposed to keeping the mitch in easter. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #41
Our current celebration of Christmas is very much a post WWII phenomenon. SheilaT Nov 2012 #42
Going back a bit farther... Romulox Nov 2012 #46
Jack frost roasting on an open fire... defacto7 Nov 2012 #48
Rove's nuts roasting on an open fire.. Elwood P Dowd Nov 2012 #49
He he he... defacto7 Nov 2012 #51
We need to keep Ma in Christmas...because I love my mom. Tom Ripley Nov 2012 #50
Christmas is all about the Ma. aquart Nov 2012 #55
Back hand 'em in the chops once for me libodem Nov 2012 #52
Well, we SHOULD keep Christ in Christmas... Scootaloo Nov 2012 #54
Watch out--He's making a run for it! pinboy3niner Nov 2012 #57
"War for More" sounds like something Americans regularly support, actually Scootaloo Nov 2012 #82
I wish that the clowns that always scream this would keep Christ the other 364 days too. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #60
Ho Ho HO! Mc Mike Nov 2012 #62
Well, there IS a clue within the spelling...... WinkyDink Nov 2012 #63
Don't Kill a Tree for Christ's Sake Coyotl Nov 2012 #66
What would be the point of removing it? rainlillie Nov 2012 #68
because by removing Christ, you get 'mas'.... trailmonkee Nov 2012 #71
What's wrong with saying Merry Christmas to people who celebrate Christmas? Or Happy Hanukkah to rainlillie Nov 2012 #73
I say Merry Christmas mostly... problem is, some people don't want others to say Happy Holidays trailmonkee Nov 2012 #74
We need to keep the Ease in Easter! Hugin Nov 2012 #70
Remind them Christmas was stolen from the pagans adigal Nov 2012 #75
We should change it to Barackmas, because of all LeftinOH Nov 2012 #78
Just smile and ask them if they are going to pay for food and health care... CBHagman Nov 2012 #79
Keep Sol in Solstice, I say! Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #80
We need to keep the 'X' in 'Xmas'. randome Nov 2012 #84
This atheist doesn't want to kill Christmas... It's a great excuse to drink! backscatter712 Nov 2012 #85
Here is my response to the "Keep Christ in Christmas" bunch. Waltons_Mtn Nov 2012 #86
LOL Mr Dixon Nov 2012 #87
thanks for noticing the funny... trailmonkee Nov 2012 #89
It is their holiday RegieRocker Nov 2012 #91
non-practicing pantheist here... alterfurz Nov 2012 #92
Belongs in Religion Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #99
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