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In reply to the discussion: First person that tells me that we need to 'Keep Christ in Christmas', will get punched in the face [View all]Hekate
(90,677 posts)56. Nice Greek letters: Chi Ro, look like X P overlaid
http://www.cresourcei.org/symbols/xmasorigin.html
Abbreviations used as Christian symbols have a long history in the church. The letters of the word "Christ" in Greek, the language in which the New Testament was written, or various titles for Jesus early became symbols of Christ and Christianity. For example, the first two letters of the word Christ (cristoV, or as it would be written in older manuscripts, CRISTOS) are the Greek letters chi (c or C) and rho (r or R). These letters were used in the early church to create the chi-rho monogram (see Christian Symbols: Christmas Ornaments), a symbol that by the fourth century became part of the official battle standard of the emperor Constantine. >snip<
The exact origin of the single letter X for Christ cannot be pinpointed with certainty. Some claim that it began in the first century AD along with the other symbols, but evidence is lacking. >snip<
In any case, by the fifteenth century Xmas emerged as a widely used symbol for Christmas. >snip<
In religious publications, the church began to use the abbreviation C, or simply X, for the word "Christ" to cut down on the cost of the books and pamphlets. From there, the abbreviation moved into general use in newspapers and other publications, and "Xmas" became an accepted way of printing "Christmas" (along with the abbreviations Xian and Xianity). >snip<
So there is no grand scheme to dilute Christianity by promoting the use of Xmas instead of Christmas. It is not a modern invention to try to convert Christmas into a secular day, nor is it a device to promote the commercialism of the holiday season. Its origin is thoroughly rooted in the heritage of the Church. It is simply another way to say Christmas, drawing on a long history of symbolic abbreviations used in the church. In fact, as with other abbreviations used in common speech or writing (such as Mr. or etc.), the abbreviation "Xmas" should be pronounced "Christmas" just as if the word were written out in full, rather than saying "exmas." Understanding this use of Christian symbolism might help us modern day Xians focus on more important issues of the Faith during Advent, and bring a little more Peace to the Xmas Season. >snip<
Abbreviations used as Christian symbols have a long history in the church. The letters of the word "Christ" in Greek, the language in which the New Testament was written, or various titles for Jesus early became symbols of Christ and Christianity. For example, the first two letters of the word Christ (cristoV, or as it would be written in older manuscripts, CRISTOS) are the Greek letters chi (c or C) and rho (r or R). These letters were used in the early church to create the chi-rho monogram (see Christian Symbols: Christmas Ornaments), a symbol that by the fourth century became part of the official battle standard of the emperor Constantine. >snip<
The exact origin of the single letter X for Christ cannot be pinpointed with certainty. Some claim that it began in the first century AD along with the other symbols, but evidence is lacking. >snip<
In any case, by the fifteenth century Xmas emerged as a widely used symbol for Christmas. >snip<
In religious publications, the church began to use the abbreviation C, or simply X, for the word "Christ" to cut down on the cost of the books and pamphlets. From there, the abbreviation moved into general use in newspapers and other publications, and "Xmas" became an accepted way of printing "Christmas" (along with the abbreviations Xian and Xianity). >snip<
So there is no grand scheme to dilute Christianity by promoting the use of Xmas instead of Christmas. It is not a modern invention to try to convert Christmas into a secular day, nor is it a device to promote the commercialism of the holiday season. Its origin is thoroughly rooted in the heritage of the Church. It is simply another way to say Christmas, drawing on a long history of symbolic abbreviations used in the church. In fact, as with other abbreviations used in common speech or writing (such as Mr. or etc.), the abbreviation "Xmas" should be pronounced "Christmas" just as if the word were written out in full, rather than saying "exmas." Understanding this use of Christian symbolism might help us modern day Xians focus on more important issues of the Faith during Advent, and bring a little more Peace to the Xmas Season. >snip<
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First person that tells me that we need to 'Keep Christ in Christmas', will get punched in the face [View all]
trailmonkee
Nov 2012
OP
It's all about marketing, sales and $$$$$ anyway. I'm fed up with it all too. n/t
RKP5637
Nov 2012
#95
xtians mischaracterize their own propaganda - the baby was jesus, the killed one was the christ nt
msongs
Nov 2012
#2
We learned about Saturnalia in Latin class way back in high school.
Manifestor_of_Light
Nov 2012
#32
Just tell 'em you don't celebrate Christmas, you celebrate Saturnalia--and you want
Moonwalk
Nov 2012
#9
As a Catholic, I suspect their reply would be Luther's: It's not in the Bible.
WinkyDink
Nov 2012
#65
Better yet, ask them if they put up a tree. If they are tell them they're a pagan and will burn.
LeftyMom
Nov 2012
#19
Tell them you'll do it when Chick Fil la says Christmas in their TV commercials instead of
RB TexLa
Nov 2012
#22
no one will be hurt, i promise.... but, it does irritate the hell out of me
trailmonkee
Nov 2012
#35
On The Day After Thanksgiving, I'm Posting This Picture On My Facebook Page
ChoppinBroccoli
Nov 2012
#37
That pretty much sums it up for me, It's about tolerance and being respectful towards other people
rainlillie
Nov 2012
#69
I wish that the clowns that always scream this would keep Christ the other 364 days too.
hobbit709
Nov 2012
#60
What's wrong with saying Merry Christmas to people who celebrate Christmas? Or Happy Hanukkah to
rainlillie
Nov 2012
#73
I say Merry Christmas mostly... problem is, some people don't want others to say Happy Holidays
trailmonkee
Nov 2012
#74
This atheist doesn't want to kill Christmas... It's a great excuse to drink!
backscatter712
Nov 2012
#85