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WillyT

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:02 PM Nov 2012

Anonymous, Karl Rove and 2012 Election Fix? - Thom Hartmann/Truth-Out [View all]

Anonymous, Karl Rove and 2012 Election Fix?
Monday, 19 November 2012 16:02
By Thom Hartmann and Sam Sacks , The Daily Take | News Analysis

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At around 11:25 pm EST on election night, Karl Rove knew something had gone terribly wrong.

Minutes earlier, Fox News called the key battleground state of Ohio for President Obama, sealing his re-election. But as the network took live shots of jubilant Obama supporters celebrating their victory camped outside the Obama re-election headquarters in Chicago, Karl Rove began building a case against the call his employer network had just made.

Rove explained that when Fox called Ohio, only 74% of the vote was in showing President Obama with a lead of roughly 30,000 votes. But, as Rove contended, with 77% reporting according to the Ohio Secretary of State office, the President’s lead had been slashed to just 991 votes.

“We gotta be careful about calling the thing,” Rove said, “I’d be very cautious about intruding in on this process.”

Rove was supremely confident that the numbers coming in from Ohio throughout the night that favored President Obama weren’t indicative of who would win Ohio when all the votes were ultimately tabulated by the state's computers. With a quarter of the vote still out there, Rove was anticipating a shift to the Right just after 11 pm, which, coincidentally, is exactly what happened in 2004.


That year, John Kerry and the entire nation were watching Ohio just after the 11pm hour. Florida had just been called for George W. Bush and according to the Electoral College math whoever won Ohio would win the election. And considering that exit polls from the state showed John Kerry with a substantial lead, there were a lot of tense moments for Karl Rove and the Republicans that night.

Then the clock struck 11:14pm, and the servers counting the votes in Ohio crashed. Election officials had planned for this sort of thing to happen and already contracted with a company in Chattanooga, Tennessee called SMARTech to be the failsafe should the servers in Ohio go down.

As journalist Craig Unger lays bare in his book, Boss Rove, SMARTech was drenched in Republican politics. One of the early founders of the company was Mercer Reynolds who used to the finance chairman of the Republican Party. SMARTech’s top client was none other than the Bush-Cheney campaign itself and SMARTech also did work for Jeb Bush and the Republican National Committee. And it was Ohio’s Republican Secretary of State, Ken Blackwell, who ensured that SMARTech received the contract to count votes on election night should the servers go down, which they did at exactly 11:14pm.

Sixty long seconds later the servers came back up in Ohio, but now with vote rerouted through SMARTech in Chattanooga. And, coincidentally, Bush’s prospects for re-election were suddenly a lot brighter. The vote totals that poured into the system from SmartTECH's computer in Chattanooga were flipping the exit polls on their head. The lead Kerry had in the exit polls had magically reversed by more than 6%, something unheard of in any other nation in the developed world, giving Bush the win in Ohio and the presidency for another four years.

Unger further explains in his book that the only independent analysis of what happened in Ohio was done by Richard Hayes Phillips and published in the book, Witness to a Crime. Phillips and his team analyzed more than 120,000 ballots, 127 polls books, and 141 signature books from Ohio’s 2004 election.

Phillips found zero irregularities in vote totals from all the counties that reported results before the servers crashed at 11:14pm. But of the fourteen counties that came in after the crash connected Ohio's election computers to SmartTECH's computers in Chattanooga, every single one of them showed voter irregularities - that all favored George W. Bush.

For example...

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More: http://truth-out.org/news/item/12845-anonymous-karl-rove-and-2012-election-fix


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I absolutely believe this! nt rainy Nov 2012 #1
I do madokie Nov 2012 #3
I DO NOT! And, there are false statements in the article. They make a case on a LIE. Coyotl Nov 2012 #44
I don't mean to be ugly but could you be a little naive concerning this issue madokie Nov 2012 #98
Don't know if Anonymous had anything to do with it but . . . brush Nov 2012 #20
After reading and seeing the Anon stuff I am partially convinced that they just might have had ..... 4bucksagallon Nov 2012 #27
Thom Hartmann video below Tx4obama Nov 2012 #2
The Conclusion: WillyT Nov 2012 #4
I agree that if indeed Anonymous did this service, they should produce the arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #8
Thanks, and ProSense Nov 2012 #12
Excellent--thank you for this. If there is proof, SHOW IT! And lets the chips fall where msanthrope Nov 2012 #102
I'll say this again. randome Nov 2012 #5
Did You Read Post #4 ??? - This Was What ProSense Was Wanting... Me Too... WillyT Nov 2012 #7
We won an election because of who we are in 2004, too radiclib Nov 2012 #9
I'm in IT. The technobabble DOES mean it's bullshit. randome Nov 2012 #11
Just cyber-crime RobertEarl Nov 2012 #14
The aliens were trying to conquer Earth and I blocked them Coyotl Nov 2012 #45
Wow! 99Forever Nov 2012 #79
OK then radiclib Nov 2012 #15
So, you are "in" IT and you declare "it's bullshit", therefore it must be so. Whew, I feel so much rhett o rick Nov 2012 #25
Believe Me... I've Worked In IT... They Ain't All That Bright... WillyT Nov 2012 #28
There's a lot of win in this post. reusrename Nov 2012 #32
But you'll believe an anonymous email on the Internet. Brilliant. randome Nov 2012 #34
Don't you mean a FAKED Anon e-mail? Coyotl Nov 2012 #47
But the email SAYS Anonymous so how can we doubt it? randome Nov 2012 #48
We can doubt it because it was sent to Velvet Revolution instead of anywhere else Coyotl Nov 2012 #59
I dont claim to "believe" any such thing. But I dont deny that it could happen either. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #84
Lots of DEMs are in IT.... it takes brains and patience and willingness to work. Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #18
You don't care if there are facts because you believe "SOMEBODY stopped Ohio from being hacked" Coyotl Nov 2012 #49
Doesn't your attitude amount to assuming the circumstances are innocent until proven "guilty"? bigmonkey Nov 2012 #99
I want investigation and I want to know who is behind this Coyotl Nov 2012 #100
You are asserting that the situation is harmless unless proven dangerous. bigmonkey Nov 2012 #103
'Evidence', not 'proof'. randome Nov 2012 #104
Your criteria for "evidence" seem vague and changeable. bigmonkey Nov 2012 #105
It's easy with our instant access to media to want things to clarify, maybe it's just frustration Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #111
The COOL thing about DEMS is Diversity and the ability to multi-task. Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #109
What motivates me is that WE WON. We have work to do going forward. Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #108
I CARE about facts. However, in cases like these so much is impossible to know for sure. Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #107
K & R Change has come Nov 2012 #6
MUST READ, MUST SEE stuff! ... Recommended bigtime! Bozita Nov 2012 #10
feasible nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #13
I think it feasible. glinda Nov 2012 #22
Putting out the warning makes it seem all the more like a CON JOB. Coyotl Nov 2012 #51
agree it's feasible, and kind of delightful, or at least interesting Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #31
IMHO There Are Two People/Sides That Can Verify Whether This Is A Conspiracy Theory Or Not......... global1 Nov 2012 #71
K&R rosesaylavee Nov 2012 #16
Hubris is universal PABigDaddyDemocrat Nov 2012 #17
The truth will be released in 24 business hours! tritsofme Nov 2012 #19
This crap is the birtherism of the left. n/t RomneyLies Nov 2012 #21
Glad to see a Democrat with an open mind. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #26
Glad to see a Democrat with a double standard RomneyLies Nov 2012 #37
Whoa! randome Nov 2012 #39
Pleaz dont speak for me. If you have a valid argument then present it. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #81
Nope, you are typical of the vote hacking conspiracy theorists. RomneyLies Nov 2012 #86
And you think that calling me a "vote hacking conspiracy theorist" is somehow rhett o rick Nov 2012 #93
Ah. It isn't. aquart Nov 2012 #30
I keep telling them that this behavior is offensive, but they don't seem to care. reusrename Nov 2012 #33
Where was your "righteous concern" when Allen West spewed the same CT bullshit about his race? RomneyLies Nov 2012 #38
Another false equivalency. 99Forever Nov 2012 #80
And the final refuge of the conspiracy theorist is revealed RomneyLies Nov 2012 #85
Don't know. 99Forever Nov 2012 #87
The poster is protecting the voting machines. The question those so inclined like to dodge is why TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #94
Yessir. 99Forever Nov 2012 #97
Link please. reusrename Nov 2012 #91
Yes, it really is RomneyLies Nov 2012 #35
Just to be fair krawhitham Nov 2012 #23
"something unheard of in any other nation in the developed world" micraphone Nov 2012 #24
What system was Rove looking at the other night when he remarked that the data page wouldn't refresh patrice Nov 2012 #29
The Ohio SOS election results page RomneyLies Nov 2012 #50
Yep. They 11 p.m. witching hour didn't work out so well for dough boy. lonestarnot Nov 2012 #36
No, no, no!! Conspiracies DO NOT exist! This could NOT have happened! Why? Because.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #40
If they can send an anonymous email, they can send a printout of the code they found. randome Nov 2012 #41
Wow. You must have been offended by the phrase in my post that reads as follows:.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #43
All love aside, your breadcrumb fear is bullshit. randome Nov 2012 #46
Keep digging Caretha Nov 2012 #58
And still no one wants to address the 'bread crumb' fear. randome Nov 2012 #61
"Anonymous doesn't want to leave bread crumbs is...not-a-fact" Caretha Nov 2012 #67
What evidence? It's deductive reasoning. randome Nov 2012 #68
And you're just another anonymous poster on the Internet.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #72
You purport to know their reasons also, Caretha Nov 2012 #74
And you can't refute that you're a poster who uses insults..... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #62
'Sherlock' was a pretty mild insult. randome Nov 2012 #65
LOL. Why should Anonymous feel compelled or required to do anything at all?.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #70
There is no evidence that anything happened. randome Nov 2012 #88
yes, we must never, ever ask for evidence of cali Nov 2012 #42
Vote Hacking is the religion of the left like Birth Certificates are the religion of the right. RomneyLies Nov 2012 #53
Wow. Just wow. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #63
+1 Z_I_Peevey Nov 2012 #96
Vote hacking is the BURDEN of the Left marions ghost Nov 2012 #95
Waaahhh! Nobody will give me my evidence!! Waaaahh!! Poor, poor baby! nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #56
WE DON"T NEED NO PROOF RomneyLies Nov 2012 #66
So some anonymous person on the internet makes a claim and we're supposed to believe it? RomneyLies Nov 2012 #52
The real reason Obama won is because I was cleaning out the attic and found my old childhood MADem Nov 2012 #54
I BELIEVE!! I BELIEVE!!!!!! randome Nov 2012 #57
If it's the real Anonymous, it appears their proof is in what they've been able to do in the past... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #60
Anybody can claim to be Anonymous RomneyLies Nov 2012 #64
I'm the real Anonymous, so I know the story is false. Coyotl Nov 2012 #76
Oh man, NOT this Bullshit again! Coyotl Nov 2012 #55
So, let me see if I understand this correctly.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #69
Double ad hominem, wow! Coyotl Nov 2012 #75
PATENTLY FALSE information Coyotl Nov 2012 #73
It's an extraordinary claim Ganja Ninja Nov 2012 #77
And people still deny that Ohio was stolen in 2004 liberal N proud Nov 2012 #78
Anonymous did nothing in Ohio riqster Nov 2012 #82
As usual... Liberal1975 Nov 2012 #83
Yes. There is still too much voter suppression going on. And too many chances for errors and fraud. randome Nov 2012 #90
Kick and Rec for all the zombies Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #89
Frankly... AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #92
Show the Proof MIKNCAL Nov 2012 #101
welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #106
The would-be-Anon video promised the evidence will be turned over to authorities Coyotl Nov 2012 #113
***HOW DO YOU CRASH AN INCREMENTING COUNT?!?!!?***** uponit7771 Nov 2012 #110
There was no crash. That is all just disinformation. Coyotl Nov 2012 #114
I think that was even more bizarre was the way Romney was acting, refusing to concede. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #112
That was not bizarro at all given the Gore experience of retracting Coyotl Nov 2012 #115
Do you mind if I quote that? DanM Nov 2013 #116
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