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In reply to the discussion: I suspect the Supreme Court will punt on Colorado... [View all]dpibel
(2,884 posts)28. Misdemeanor trespass
As we've discussed before, you never quite mention that the "relevant conviction" for Cuoy Griffin was misdemeanor trespass.
I do not believe that is equivalent to insurrection.
Yes, there was a bunch of evidence of Griffin's insurrectionary activities.
But the same is true of Trump.
I still don't get why you're so sure this SCOTUS will graft language onto the 14th. Seems that would be hard to pull off even for this gang of joker originalists.
But we've had this discussion before. I won't change your mind and you won't change mine.
I think there's a high likelihood that the Supremes will reverse the CO court. I think trying to guess which imaginative hook they will hang their hats on is pretty much reading tea leaves.
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They may well do that because if they rule against Trump the insurrectionist
bucolic_frolic
Jan 2024
#1
Some ex-Confederates were disqualified from serving in Congress after the civil war
DemocraticPatriot
Jan 2024
#34
And yet, this SCOTUS could overturn the CO ruling because of the absence of a conviction
Fiendish Thingy
Jan 2024
#26
"...trying to guess which imaginative hook they will hang their hats on..."
LudwigPastorius
Jan 2024
#41
The 14th also disqualifies someone found to have "given aid and comforts to the enemies , thereof"
MichMan
Jan 2024
#32
It's a moot point because President Biden will beat any Republican on the ballot by 20 points
MichMan
Jan 2024
#39
A big thing that a lot here seem to miss also. we were actually at war, then. nt
yagotme
Jan 2024
#61
I agree - the older I get the more I dislike the US concept if "United" States.
walkingman
Jan 2024
#3
Do you oppose states being allowed to legalize marijuana in violation of federal laws?
MichMan
Jan 2024
#33
No, I think it should be legalized in every state. Actually I would prefer decriminalized
walkingman
Jan 2024
#43
But since it isn't legalized on the Federal level, is it ridiculous for states to do so ?
MichMan
Jan 2024
#44
Absolutely not. ☮ Just another example that each state is like another country.
walkingman
Jan 2024
#58
I think they'll say that enforcement of Section 3 needs to be legislated by the US Congress
maxsolomon
Jan 2024
#4
Section 4 hasn't been legislated, either. See: the annual debt-ceiling farce.
maxsolomon
Jan 2024
#14
That is the only thing I have seen so far that seems reality-based and plausible.
Maru Kitteh
Jan 2024
#18
Yeah. The confederate states will totally agree with that and forget the whole thing.
Maru Kitteh
Jan 2024
#20
Of COURSE it is. And if anyone is expecting anything nobler from Trump's MAGA SCOTUS...
B.See
Jan 2024
#16
The fix is that they have a supermajority on the Supreme Court and can do whatever they want
Prairie Gates
Jan 2024
#19
I'm starting to think they will use the political question doctrine to say courts cannot determine whether Trump
tritsofme
Jan 2024
#15
Its not the voting that is at issue here.... it qualification to serve
getagrip_already
Jan 2024
#56