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In reply to the discussion: Weird! Anonymous is *horrible*, but harming the 99% is nothing to worry our little minds about? [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)John Kerry lost the 2004 election the second he was forced to pick John Edwards. That doomed him.
Edwards was NOT qualified for anything, a total fraud (and later of course showed he was to the rest of the 99% that were in love with him back in 2004.
Incumbent presidents win 99.9% of the time
(as nate Silver said, a football leading by a field goal going into the 4th quarter wins more than 80% of the time, and Bush led the entire way.
And where was everyone when Dan Rather was sold down the river, even though what he said was true, and the later commission could NOT find that the memo was fake after all. There wsa no proof either way.But the damage was done, and our media from that point forward has been a total fraud. Dan Rather was the last man standing.
Remember a baseball umpire makes a wrong call in a particular game.
But over the course of the season it equals out for every team.
2000? Well, I 100% blame Ralph Nader, not the shenanigans in Florida.
I also blame the dirty tricks and the Jim Crow taking blacks off the rolls.
Al Gore probably won Florida by 60,000 votes not lost by 500.
HOWEVER- had Ralph Nader not lied and said something so many democrats at the time believed, Gore would have won NH and the election, florida be damned.
(and Had Al Gore and John Kerry both picked Bob Graham from Florida, there would have been no doubt.
John Edwards and Lieberman were the wrong picks. (If Gore wanted a Jewish person, should have picked Wellstone, but Wellstone had a secret that probably scared Gore off (He had MS).
Who knows. We all know later that Wellstone was Wellstoned.
as for other issues???
What in the world does anonymous(whom I think is Karl Rove) have to do with the price of wheat or a bagel? NOTHING at all.
We needed Jeb Bartlett when Bush was president to think of the way it could be.
WE HAVE IN PRESIDENT OBAMA THE WAY IT IS, not the way it could be.
and this bullshit with anonymous is delegitimizing the reelection landslide of President Obama.
sheeshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
and by the way
let's not be so high and pure anyhow
Why is it that until CHICAGO is in the game, dems let the other side roll over them.
Both Kennedy in 1960 and Obama in 2008 and 2012 had CHICAGO on their side.
A winner does what a loser won't.
We won in 1960, 1964 and 2008 and 2012.
Ross Perot helped us win in 1992 over a personal grudge with 41.
an incumbent won as always in 1996.
2000 was an anomoly
2004 an incumbent won
2008 and 2012 was history
let's stop making negatives out of positives and keep the correct formula for 2016 (no primary challenge, and total unity, and hope beyond hope that CHICAGO is running the elections
and wake up-1960 showed something
both sides might have cheated. The one that might have cheated more might have won.
Think about it.
Politics from day one was dirty (and everyone compromised from day one) and the so called legendary Thomas Jefferson wrote all are equal, except when it came to the slaves he owned and the women slaves he abused and raped.