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Kid Berwyn

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19. Excellent Observations, Yours. The South Has Risen.
Tue Jan 23, 2024, 05:13 PM
Jan 2024
How the South Won the Civil War

Oligarchy, Democracy, and the Continuing Fight for the Soul of America


Heather Cox Richardson

Overview

While the North prevailed in the Civil War, ending slavery and giving the country a "new birth of freedom," Heather Cox Richardson argues that democracy's blood-soaked victory was ephemeral. The system, which had sustained the defeated South, moved westward and there established a foothold. How the South Won the Civil War traces the story of the American paradox, the competing claims of equality and subordination woven into the nation's fabric and identity. Richardson seizes upon the soul of the country and its ongoing struggle to provide equal opportunity to all. Debunking the myth that the Civil War released the nation from the grip of oligarchy, expunging the sins of the Founding, it reveals how and why the Old South not only survived in the West, but thrived.

Selected Quotes

“The West and the South become a political block and begin to push back against the East, not only in issues of finance, which other historians had identified before but also with issues of race and economic development. It was my contention in that book that one of the ways we got the Progressive Era was because once again, the people in the West and the South had managed to reinstate the concept of subordination for non-white peoples and for women in order to then be able to say that they could use the government to promote equality of opportunity for white men.”

“It’s 1977 that you get Star Wars, and the image of Luke Skywalker taking on the Empire. Of course, Reagan really hits his stride in 1978 and is elected in 1980 based on that incredibly powerful mythological narrative that hearkens not only back to Star Wars but also back to the Bible and to every little guy overcoming the big guy story that you can think of. But the Democrats meanwhile dropped their narrative really all together in the early 70s. Not only by jumping on the idea of coalitions but by the rewriting of the rules of the Democratic National Convention and National Committee in 1972...because they began themselves to focus on less on a narrative than on coalitions.”

“As the policies that are being enacted by the people in charge increasingly create an underclass⁠— and I don’t just mean an economic underclass, I mean increasingly don’t answer the needs of a growing number of people⁠— more and more start to talk to each other. They start to say ‘Hey, did you see this, I wasn’t so keen on that,’ and gradually they start to find a common voice. That common voice is eventually going to get people out protesting, and with luck, it’s going to kick up people who can articulate what’s at fault, and when they do that, that helps to create a movement.”

“A lot of societies have believed over the centuries that the way you move a society forward is to have a few well-connected, wealthy guys run everything because they can make it much more efficient...They end up not innovating. In order to really make people innovate, you want to put the resources of the government, make them available at the bottom and make education available to people at the bottom because they innovate, because through democracy they’ll make mistakes, but eventually they’ll come out the right way.”

Source: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/event/how-south-won-civil-war-oligarchy-democracy-and-continuing-fight-soul-america

PS: Really appreciate your analysis, BaronChocula. Back when Reagan was first elected, I remember voicing similar thoughts only to be greeted by laughter. Things have only gotten worse. In today's America, the slaves don't even know they are slaves.

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Pruneface was a Klansman [View all] Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 OP
Reagan was a real POS. 3catwoman3 Jan 2024 #1
Reagan was a useful idiot, if not a traitor, too. Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #3
When he was governor of California during the time of then black panthers he was for gun control ! kimbutgar Jan 2024 #2
Ronnie the Racist GOP goes way back. Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #4
Not a dog whistle! moondust Jan 2024 #7
An evil scumbag malaise Jan 2024 #27
I trace the beginning of our society's slippery slope into selfishness to him and his sidekicks. llmart Jan 2024 #33
And to think I voted for Reagan in '84 Redleg Jan 2024 #5
My father, a life long Republican sab390 Jan 2024 #12
I hear ya, Redleg . Permanut Jan 2024 #14
That Time Might've Been the Last Gasp of America's Free Press Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #16
Nancy Reagan's arrogance misanthrope Jan 2024 #18
K & R malaise Jan 2024 #6
If they're racists towards their fellow Americans... Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #17
TThe worst thing is that these racist charlatans malaise Jan 2024 #34
President Kennedy tried to put Democracy into practice, but, you know... Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #35
Very happy for this post! BaronChocula Jan 2024 #8
Excellent Observations, Yours. The South Has Risen. Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #19
Thanks for the kudos BaronChocula Jan 2024 #25
So true. byronius Jan 2024 #9
...And America exported its special brand of Friendly Fascism Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #20
Ron: Just say no to rugs. twodogsbarking Jan 2024 #10
War on Drugs really was GOP making war on Minorities and Hippies Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #21
All true. Well......... twodogsbarking Jan 2024 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author wolfie001 Jan 2024 #11
Indeed. bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #13
Thank you. Must emphasize racist history. Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #28
"Reagan Democrats" there was plenty of them and they put him in. Raine Jan 2024 #15
The media and government were not kind to MLK. They don't like kindness. He did. twodogsbarking Jan 2024 #23
That it was uttered by mid-level staffers... Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #29
Very interesting, thanks so much for the link. 👍🙂 nt Raine Jan 2024 #30
Black people knew Reagan was a racist pos. Why white people couldn't see it always baffled me, except now that I'm so Solomon Jan 2024 #24
Safari Club: How Jimmy Carter got canceled by Saudi Arabia and Big Oil. Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #31
👀 a lot to take in but thanks underpants Jan 2024 #26
You are welcome! Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #32
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