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In reply to the discussion: Weird! Anonymous is *horrible*, but harming the 99% is nothing to worry our little minds about? [View all]JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Its called a negotiation. You put things out there to see how the other side will respond. And we saw how the GOP responded, didn't we. Nothing was ever going to be enough, and that's what Obama proved. The American people saw that the GOP was using the debt ceiling to hold the country hostage and that no matter what Obama put on the table, it wasn't going to be enough. That hurt the GOP.
You simply want to make noise. You can't explain the advantage, political or otherwise, that Obama would obtain by actually cutting SS by 10%. Which is why, to make additional noise on this topic, you bolted your conspiracy theory about Obama's hate for SS with the totally unrelated (and generally speaking, irrelevant) theory of whether Anonymous some how stopped Rove's evil plan to steal Ohio, a state which ultimately, Obama didn't need.
But that conspiracy theory was getting some traction, so you joined the band wagon, mainly to push your unrelated conspiracy theory.
Your repeated claims that Obama is going to cut/slash/gut SS have become a variation on the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf.
Obama put the expiration of the Bush tax cuts in the 2012 lame duck period because doing so gave him all the leverage. Win or lose, he would get to decide what happened.
Now, he can let them all expire and give up nothing at all. Then, the Senate will pass (re-pass actually) a retroactive bill to reinstate the cuts for the middle class, and dare the GOP to vote against it or do nothing.
Now, Obama will, and should, use the time between today and the expiration of those cuts, to see if he can get anything else from the GOP. I suspect the GOP might give up, agree to a bill that ends the upper ends cuts, leaves those for incomes under 500k, and that also kicks the hard decisions about spending cuts and military cuts down the road, perhaps with a bump in the debt ceiling.
In that model, the silly fiscal cliff talk ends with no expiration event, and the media will cheer the new found stability.
Perhaps you can describe what you think Obama gets by making the cuts you've been predicting he'd make for over 3 years now? And include the time frame for it to happen.