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Martin Eden

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67. "If Biden said it was not healthy to eat shit the GOP would host an all-you-can-eat feces fest"

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2024, 01:13 PM

Mar 25

Oh please, Joe. Say it.

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Inside the Republican Attacks on Electric Vehicles [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 24 OP

"And in the rural reaches of America..." PJMcK Mar 24 #1

Why not charge when you get to the house? Silent3 Mar 24 #12

Not everyone lives in a house Caribbeans Mar 24 #16

I made my comment specifically in reply to "Our country house is 125 miles from the city... Silent3 Mar 24 #17

And I made my comment to show that battery electric vehicles will never be practical for everyone Caribbeans Mar 24 #18

Never? edisdead Mar 24 #40

Well that is ridiculous. Voltaire2 Mar 25 #59

I think you misunderstood my point PJMcK Mar 25 #49

And geography matters True Dough Mar 25 #53

How many people in that city (Hong Kong?) actually own cars? tinrobot Mar 24 #22

What if ForgedCrank Mar 26 #98

You charge at your country home. Voltaire2 Mar 25 #58

Your assumption is wrong for us PJMcK Mar 25 #64

Your specific example was your 125 mile trip to your country home. Voltaire2 Mar 25 #65

This sentence is the crux of the issue: CaliforniaPeggy Mar 24 #2

You just stated the exact problem that Biden aims to fix tinrobot Mar 24 #24

Pick my side? That's easy. President Biden IS my choice. And I already own an Audi e-tron electric car. nt CaliforniaPeggy Mar 24 #26

My choice of vehicle is not bound to my presidential vote PJMcK Mar 25 #50

No everything is frozen as it is right now. Voltaire2 Mar 25 #60

"The GOP wants to limit progress and keep EVs impractical. " grumpyduck Mar 26 #87

You write... Think. Again. Mar 24 #3

"Internal combustion engines average around 300 miles per tank,.." Disaffected Mar 24 #5

Out of boredom... Think. Again. Mar 24 #8

Yes, wallet range for EVs is a lot better, for now. Disaffected Mar 24 #13

Wow, that tax is so much cheaper than the additional cost of gas would be.... Think. Again. Mar 24 #14

Two comments: Disaffected Mar 24 #15

Luckily, the added expenses you mention, if they actually do go as far up as you're fearing... Think. Again. Mar 24 #19

Sure, EV bashing has become a right wing mantra. Disaffected Mar 24 #29

I need to wait for the price drops too... Think. Again. Mar 24 #34

China is now producing a small, pretty decent, basic EV hatch Disaffected Mar 24 #36

No, that's not true, lithium ion batteries just take about a 1/3 longer to charge at 32F. Think. Again. Mar 24 #38

What's not true? Disaffected Mar 25 #48

Oh, "permitted"... I guess they don't want you to notice the reduced range... Think. Again. Mar 25 #55

What is the UAW opinion about Chinese cars being sold here? MichMan Mar 26 #71

I suspect Disaffected Mar 26 #82

Have started ICE engines at -30F. yagotme Mar 26 #73

There's some very interesting articles about... Think. Again. Mar 26 #75

Hmmm... yagotme Mar 26 #76

Cool! So EVs DO run in cold weather! Think. Again. Mar 26 #77

Yes, but how well? yagotme Mar 26 #78

See the edit to my post above. Think. Again. Mar 26 #79

I read the Op article. yagotme Mar 26 #81

Yeah, heavier use is best done with heavy use vehicles. Think. Again. Mar 26 #83

Evs loose a lot of performance in cold weather Disaffected Mar 26 #84

Yup. I know it would be a variable, but some info on yagotme Mar 26 #85

That's a hard number to pin down Disaffected Mar 26 #88

That's what I mean. yagotme Mar 26 #89

I live in So Cal..this is an EV Mecca.. Tikki Mar 25 #51

I have a mid sized sedan and mine has a range of 540 miles when I filled up today MichMan Mar 24 #30

Wow, large tank. Think. Again. Mar 24 #35

How many charging stations are up and running from the infrastructure bill? Faux news doc03 Mar 24 #4

According to Consumer Affairs... Think. Again. Mar 24 #21

Is that counting battery replacement? former9thward Mar 24 #37

Yes, I like EVs better than ICEs even though I don't own one... Think. Again. Mar 24 #39

I have never had to replace an engine. former9thward Mar 24 #42

From: The Dept. of Energy https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/electricity_benefits.html Think. Again. Mar 24 #43

Well good luck to you when you get your EV. former9thward Mar 25 #62

Me either after driving for 60 years I have never replaced an engine or doc03 Mar 25 #45

So you've just sold or junked them?... Think. Again. Mar 25 #54

It says "cars" not one car. I have a 19-year-old Toyota Tacoma with 130000 miles. It has low doc03 Mar 25 #63

Someone has tried to force you to buy a car? Think. Again. Mar 25 #66

That's what the government is trying to do. If we wanted them they wouldn't need to doc03 Mar 25 #68

Well you're right about the infrastructure... Think. Again. Mar 25 #69

There are 46.4% of them in just 5 states, I don't live in them. Then there is the extra cost of the doc03 Mar 24 #44

According to your source, it's only 2x. yagotme Mar 26 #72

I arrived at my estimates using the charts in the article linked below... Think. Again. Mar 26 #74

My EV beats the tar out of any muscle car straight up superpatriotman Mar 24 #6

The F-150 does have a range problem when towing loads NickB79 Mar 24 #7

Range is significantly affected by ambient temperature RubyRose Mar 24 #9

Yes, heavier use calls for heavy-use vehicles... Think. Again. Mar 24 #23

What do you say to these nitwits the tell you it will create more toxins to create Maraya1969 Mar 24 #10

Eventually there will be a robust recycling program for batteries NickB79 Mar 24 #11

There already are recylcing programs tinrobot Mar 24 #27

I have a ICE pickup that is 19 years old, $10k for a battery is doc03 Mar 25 #46

Some battery types last a really long time. tinrobot Mar 25 #61

Probably ship them to poor countries so slave labor and children can extract anything of value MichMan Mar 24 #31

You can name call but modern gas cars put out very little pollution. former9thward Mar 24 #41

So you are saying that commiting suicide by sitting in your car in a closed garage Maraya1969 Mar 26 #86

That is not a greenhouse emission. former9thward Mar 26 #90

What you say is just wrong. Maraya1969 Mar 26 #91

You disagree, but scientists don't. former9thward Mar 26 #94

How about UC Berkley? Maraya1969 Mar 26 #96

No offense, but have you ever taken chemistry? former9thward Mar 26 #97

Yes but I am sure you are better at it than me. What blows my mind is your refusal Maraya1969 Mar 26 #99

You are still digging. former9thward Mar 26 #100

Are you trying to say that green houses, complete with enough toxins is not affecting the earth? Maraya1969 Mar 26 #92

I have no idea what your post says. former9thward Mar 26 #95

I did my Louisiana state income taxes today, and guess what... Goodheart Mar 24 #20

How do you expect road maintenance and repairs to be done if EV owners aren't paying ? MichMan Mar 24 #32

Republicans don't like change and new initiatives. llmart Mar 24 #25

"There will be more electric cars in the future until everyone will have one whether they like it or not." MichMan Mar 24 #33

Republicans should embrace ev as expensive as they are. nt Groundhawg Mar 24 #28

About 80% of commutes in the U.S. are within range of old lead-acid batteries. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 25 #47

I agree. SalamanderSleeps Mar 25 #52

The presumption that 1 vehicle has to meet all needs is costly and wasteful. Mopar151 Mar 25 #56

Seems like having to buy both an EV and an ICE vehicle is also costly and wasteful? MichMan Mar 26 #70

How many screwdrivers are enough? Mopar151 Mar 26 #93

American Petroleum Institute gibraltar72 Mar 25 #57

"If Biden said it was not healthy to eat shit the GOP would host an all-you-can-eat feces fest" Martin Eden Mar 25 #67

I see a pattern here I've seen before on Electric Vehicle OPs DBoon Mar 26 #80