Right wingers love to use Liberal notions against Liberals. The idea of "fair play" and good faith arguments are NOT Conservative ideas. Conservatives believe in power and hierarchy. They believe that certain people should be bound by the law and NOT protected and other should be protected by the law but not bound by it. It is an intrinsically undemocratic and unjust system of thought, no matter how they try to focus on their bullshit planks.
When people have had enough of their overreach, which they inevitably engage in because it is built into their worldview; when people are at the point of say...guillotines or other less drastic but still fiery forms of reaction, the right will say, "Wait, what about tolerance? What about civility?" EVERY SINGLE TIME. Sadly, a lot of Liberals fall for it too. "Yeah, I guess we should be fair" and they give Flat Earth people a chance to plead their case. They put up people who are anti vaccine or who are still "skeptical" about climate change.
As I said in the other thread, Not Every Viewpoint Is Valid. We don't have to be civil. We shouldn't be cruel and crooked, and destructive like right wingers, but we shouldn't indulge their "Kings, Queens, and Nobility" fantasies either.
Conservatism, as a political ideology, doesn't work for the VAST VAST majority of people. It is a system of thought built by people who were DEFENDING MONARCHY and ARISTOCRACY as a viable and preferred form of government. The founders of Conservatism knew that hereditary monarchy was not going to last at the point they were writing in its defense but they wanted to maintain the STRUCTURE and were creating a new ideology around the concept of hierarchy, a defense of inequality and concentration of wealth and power. That is STILL Conservatism today not matter what the leaders say about "small government", "fiscal responsibility", "family values", and all their other bullshit. They are simply trying to maintain the unequal distribution of the benefits of society.
When it comes to democracy versus Capitalism, Conservatives will choose Capitalism every time.
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