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JohnnyRingo

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40. Universal "concessions" are overdue.

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:13 AM

Nov 2012

For going on forty years, American labor has been hearing the word concessions at every wage negotiation. The rationale was consistent, that the future of the employee's job rides on whether they can suffer through a cut in pay or benefits.

The workers were told that the belt tightening would go all the way to the top, but while worker's wages stagnated or lost ground through multi tier wage scales, the board of directors sucked up those savings like a nuclear powered Roomba and deposited them in offshore accounts and vacation homes.

It's time to square up and reintroduce the word "concessions" to the top earners if republicans insist the national debt needs an influx of revenue. Then, and only then, will the sacrifice truly be "shared".

It's their turn now.

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Candidly, I do not see the necessity at this time for "Shared Sacrifice" [View all] Samantha Nov 2012 OP

Absolutely. Atticus Nov 2012 #1

I am so sick and tired of hearing that phase while reading articles of those prospering Samantha Nov 2012 #4

OTOH it is time for the rich to share their share of the sacrifice. Eisenhower tax rates Vincardog Nov 2012 #79

Great Post Sam! GatorLarry Nov 2012 #82

You are certainly paying attention and thank you Samantha Nov 2012 #85

Totally agree. ananda Nov 2012 #2

Exactly Samantha Nov 2012 #5

Exactly! To me the whole tone was set by Dubya to dump us into two unpaid wars (one by lying), NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #3

If there is to be shared sacrifice, don't you think we should ask Halliburton and The Carlyle Group Samantha Nov 2012 #10

Absolutely. great response to my response...thanks! NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #21

I totally agree Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #6

they didn't share the prosperity- they don't get to slough off the sacrifice. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #7

I personally want to be delivered but will not be squealing like a pig Samantha Nov 2012 #13

I heaven05 Nov 2012 #48

+1000 JaneyVee Nov 2012 #8

Let the Bankers, Wall Streeters, CEO's and Politicians who made this mess Liberalynn Nov 2012 #9

This thread is making me very happy because people are speaking out against this phrase Samantha Nov 2012 #14

You're welcome Liberalynn Nov 2012 #16

I do. obxhead Nov 2012 #11

Agree humbled_opinion Nov 2012 #12

I read today that Honeywell, who's CEO was out there with SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #17

You are exactly correct and here is another point Samantha Nov 2012 #24

Maybe you misunderstood me humbled_opinion Nov 2012 #81

I have been thinking about this question and I think we all need to discuss possibilities Samantha Nov 2012 #18

Yep confiscate their ill gotten rigged wealth HoosierRadical Nov 2012 #28

No, I don't advocate for any laws that confiscates wealth Samantha Nov 2012 #42

You can't exactly, but what you can do is to take several steps to stop the progression, and over Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #57

"Confiscate wealth" is right up there with "shared sacrifice" or "job creators". Curmudgeoness Nov 2012 #67

It seems to me that "confiscating wealth"... dchill Nov 2012 #74

+1 leftstreet Nov 2012 #72

Even if they were forced to pay more taxes what "sacrifices" are they making? SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #15

I totally agree with you -- their nerve is striking Samantha Nov 2012 #26

k&r forestpath Nov 2012 #19

GMTA Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #20

I love your screen name, Horse with no Name Samantha Nov 2012 #49

Thank you for saying what needs to be said in such a nice way. wilsonbooks Nov 2012 #22

Well, that is another approach and I can understand the protesters' motivation Samantha Nov 2012 #34

I have already sacrificed Skittles Nov 2012 #23

Well said! Samantha Nov 2012 #35

Tax investment income the same as earned income... HoosierRadical Nov 2012 #25

Why would gamblers not have to pay the same as workers abelenkpe Nov 2012 #29

I believe that and I think that is the way it was under the Clinton terms Samantha Nov 2012 #36

Totally agree! abelenkpe Nov 2012 #27

Defense, taxing the wealthy and corporations should all be apart of the deal. HoosierRadical Nov 2012 #31

I see the need for the rich to share in the sacrifices and hardships the rest of us have been throug Arcanetrance Nov 2012 #30

I totally agree Samantha Nov 2012 #37

And for John2 Nov 2012 #43

I think he was sent out to float that trial balloon Samantha Nov 2012 #50

Not all of them call people like you and me "Lefties." Rahm Emanuel used another phrase, and did so AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #55

This is brilliant & cuts right to the chase. I hope ALL DEMs take this stance, & hold to it. nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #32

Do we dare hope all the Dems take this stance Samantha Nov 2012 #38

Nicely put. K & R n/t JimDandy Nov 2012 #33

K&R ReRe Nov 2012 #39

Universal "concessions" are overdue. JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #40

You are so right, JohnnyRingo, I like the way you think Samantha Nov 2012 #44

Do you know what I heard today (MSNBC) Samantha Nov 2012 #87

But in 1969, an average worker could get a union job and raise a family. JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #95

I think you are correct Samantha Nov 2012 #98

Let the sacrifice be proportional to the gains. hay rick Nov 2012 #41

"Thinly-disguised looting" Samantha Nov 2012 #46

I wouldn't say that "nobody" was outraged at the 91% top tax rate Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #52

marginal rate vs effective rate mostlyconfused Nov 2012 #86

They don't view it that way davidn3600 Nov 2012 #45

Seriously ...they don't believe that. They just want you to think they do Samantha Nov 2012 #47

the sad part is DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #58

indeed, well said justabob Nov 2012 #59

Can't cut out the 500 million taxpayer dollars to Uganda every year to help them Genocide gay folks. blkmusclmachine Nov 2012 #51

I couldn't agree more. Cleita Nov 2012 #53

I agree. diane in sf Nov 2012 #54

We'll get a "Grand Bargain," but there is no way to stop the Middle-East wars. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #56

K&R Thank you. woo me with science Nov 2012 #60

Yeah, whenever there's sacrifice involved it has to be shared. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #61

I truly appreciate this thoughtful post Samantha Nov 2012 #66

Financial transaction tax reteachinwi Nov 2012 #83

I have thought that was a good idea for a long time Samantha Nov 2012 #90

One thing I would like to see many of the 1% share is a prison cell. libtodeath Nov 2012 #62

Agree. Iraq benefitted them, so they can pay for that war. closeupready Nov 2012 #63

The rich should sacrifice their ill-gotten gains! Odin2005 Nov 2012 #64

Yup. glinda Nov 2012 #65

Thank you....well said Jake2413 Nov 2012 #68

If you ever get through to him can you relay this message for me Samantha Nov 2012 #89

In 2008, I lost half of my retirement account. I can't afford to give more right now. japple Nov 2012 #69

I understand and you are not alone Samantha Nov 2012 #91

Amen. You are not alone in thinking this. NT Cowpunk Nov 2012 #70

The Poor and the Middle Class "share" the sacrifice. amb123 Nov 2012 #71

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2012 #73

Yup! If you want to cut the budget end the war and cut the weapons procurement budget. Ganja Ninja Nov 2012 #75

Agree. yardwork Nov 2012 #76

I do. We've been sacrificing since the late 70s, watching Warpy Nov 2012 #77

In responding to another poster above, I told the poster Samantha Nov 2012 #92

the working class has been sacrificing for 30 years while the capitalist class got fat. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #78

K&R SunSeeker Nov 2012 #80

absolutely! and a K & R bread_and_roses Nov 2012 #84

How do you think we get them to do that Samantha Nov 2012 #93

'I like the cut of your jib, sailor...' druidity33 Nov 2012 #88

You are so kind to say that Samantha Nov 2012 #94

Just cut a few Billion $$ from one war-lord in Afghaistan...... lib2DaBone Nov 2012 #96

Works for me Samantha Nov 2012 #97