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2. we need enough to be willing to end the filibuster for at least that purpose

Fri Apr 26, 2024, 08:10 AM

Apr 26

I have no idea how many would vote for the filibuster on a bill to expand SCOTUS. We had two who refused to end it for pretty much anything but neither of them will be returning. One can hope Sinema is replaced with the much better Gallego but Manchin will be replaced by a Republican.

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How big of a Senate majority do we need to expand the SCOTUS? [View all] prodigitalson Apr 26 OP

1. Voltaire2 Apr 26 #1

We'll need more than that. Happy Hoosier Apr 26 #16

I believe a simple majority can change the rules including the filibuster. bullimiami Apr 26 #27

Exactly. lees1975 Apr 26 #54

we need enough to be willing to end the filibuster for at least that purpose dsc Apr 26 #2

Can't it be changed in the rules committee WhiteTara Apr 26 #7

Whatever happens in th Rules Committee is a proposal. former9thward Apr 26 #12

so it takes the 60 vote threshold? WhiteTara Apr 26 #33

Under the current rules. former9thward Apr 26 #65

Manchin and Sinema won't be there to block it. LiberalFighter Apr 26 #53

This a good explanation from chatGPT - walkingman Apr 26 #3

thanks....so simple majority in both houses and a presidential signature prodigitalson Apr 26 #5

Chat apparently does not know about the Senate filibuster. former9thward Apr 26 #10

The rules can be changed with 51 votes and the nuclear option. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #19

Chat did not mention that at all. former9thward Apr 26 #23

Isn't it 50 plus tiebreaker (VP)? Polybius Apr 26 #39

Sure, VP can be 51st vote Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #45

I wish we would do away with the Senate filibuster. walkingman Apr 26 #70

Not expanding it since 1869 is a good reason to expand it along with the number of cases filed. LiberalFighter Apr 26 #55

We'd need 51 Senators to first get rid of the filibuster. Elessar Zappa Apr 26 #4

it's way past time to get rid of that prodigitalson Apr 26 #6

The fact that you're angry doesn't mean that Democrats want to pack the Court brooklynite Apr 26 #8

Mmm... maybe before yesterday. tavernier Apr 26 #9

Absent any actual evidence, my opinion holds. brooklynite Apr 26 #11

Expand the court prodigitalson Apr 26 #14

Some might argue that the Court is already "packed"? kentuck Apr 26 #21

That is absolutely the correct framing prodigitalson Apr 26 #31

Soon, Democrats will face a critical choice Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #22

Name an elected official at any level who advocates expanding the number of SC Justices. brooklynite Apr 26 #25

Here's a list of consponsors: spooky3 Apr 26 #26

Worth pointing out... FBaggins Apr 26 #30

People keep moving the goalposts. I'm responding spooky3 Apr 26 #43

From the link: Polybius Apr 26 #52

Elizabeth Warren, Ed Markey, Tina Smith Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #29

The fact that you're not angry doesn't mean that Republicans did not pack the Court. speak easy Apr 26 #47

Is it really packing if the court becomes more balanced? LiberalFighter Apr 26 #56

I hope they are paying attention and CHANGE THEIR MINDS Iwasthere Apr 26 #68

Real Dems or DINOs like Maserati Manchin and Curtsy Kyrsten... JT45242 Apr 26 #13

This prodigitalson Apr 26 #15

Simple majority if 51 support killing the filibuster. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #17

You need the will to attempt it TexasDem69 Apr 26 #18

We need 20 years of a democratic Senate Johonny Apr 26 #20

Nobody in power wants that. The sc is a much honored and beloved institution Autumn Apr 26 #24

Also better to let them take the blame leftstreet Apr 26 #32

Not true. spooky3 Apr 26 #34

Won't happen. Republicans will pack the courts to legislate what they want. Autumn Apr 26 #35

Maybe; depends on election results. But it's not true that "nobody in power spooky3 Apr 26 #42

Joe doesn't support expanding the court. He's said that. So some Dems might like the idea Autumn Apr 26 #44

One last time--you made a claim that "nobody wants this." That's not spooky3 Apr 26 #49

Who has the power to bring this bill up and pass it? Autumn Apr 26 #64

He may be more inclined to support an expansion now. LiberalFighter Apr 26 #59

It has happened in the past. We have not always had 9 justices. wnylib Apr 26 #38

The court changed six times before settling at the present total of nine in 1869. Autumn Apr 26 #41

And it can change again. wnylib Apr 26 #46

Good luck with that, FDR couldn't do it in war time. nt Autumn Apr 26 #48

One Goodheart Apr 26 #28

Expanding the court would be a terrible thing for Democrats to do. We would lose future elections for decades! beaglelover Apr 26 #36

No we wouldn't. That is just hyperbole. LiberalFighter Apr 26 #60

Depends on multiple things Polybius Apr 26 #37

How about just one Justice? Polybius Apr 26 #40

President Biden has said he doesn't support expanding SCOTUS ripcord Apr 26 #50

No it doesn't. He probably thought it was pointless when he didn't have the votes to make it happen. LiberalFighter Apr 26 #61

You are projecting your emotions onto him ripcord Apr 26 #63

Wouldn't you be projecting? LiberalFighter Apr 26 #66

I have no problem trusting the President to do what he thinks is right ripcord Apr 26 #67

But you are saying he won't change his mind. LiberalFighter Apr 26 #69

Enough to make Mitch McConnell and Fox News irrelevant. Initech Apr 26 #51

Bad idea CelticCrow Apr 26 #57

Expanding the SCOTUS is a nice thought but in reality, I can never see that happening. elocs Apr 26 #58

Another issue that needs to be dealt with is the judge shopping. LiberalFighter Apr 26 #62