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ripcord

(5,553 posts) Fri May 3, 2024, 01:25 PM May 3

Pushing the idea that agitators led protesters into bad behavior is absurd [View all]

Oh those poor, innocent, naive children were just influenced by bad actors. Not only are they adults who went into this with their eyes wide open but there is no proof of this conspiracy theory. Some people just want to protect the protesters from the consequences of the actions they chose.

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Pushing the idea that agitators led protesters into bad behavior is absurd [View all] ripcord May 3 OP

Sensible response Marcus IM May 3 #1

President Biden spoke out against the protesters actions and said it needed to stop ripcord May 3 #3

Protesting is one thing, violence and destruction is another. Freethinker65 May 3 #2

I agree. Damaging school properties is unacceptable. Marcus IM May 3 #9

Cute. You honestly feel violence/destruction of your own campus is justified? Freethinker65 May 3 #17

Huh? Where do you get that? Marcus IM May 3 #27

Because apparently they honestly feel the violence and destruction in Gaza is justified. nt. Voltaire2 May 3 #34

Because of the violence and destruction in Gaza sarisataka May 3 #39

Folks don't JustAnotherGen May 3 #56

That might be true, but currently real people Voltaire2 May 3 #60

Are US Jews not real people? sarisataka May 3 #61

US Jews are currently being bombed shot and starved to death Voltaire2 May 4 #81

Not at all what I said, nor do i believe sarisataka May 4 #85

The Jewish people murdered by Hamas during the attack were real people. Demsrule86 May 4 #76

Because I thought the images were insinuating what you appear to be accusing me of Freethinker65 May 3 #57

That's just fine as Gazans don't really count as people. Voltaire2 May 3 #32

The narrative has completely collapsed sarisataka May 3 #4

Just had a convo with my sister who's daughter's father is cachukis May 3 #5

Sounds about right. A mix of opinions, with some problematic sloganeering. maxsolomon May 3 #7

The table of eleven Nazis Bad Thoughts May 3 #11

They are also misguided and naive. shrike3 May 3 #12

My sister insisted they were strong in their cachukis May 3 #21

They certainly aren't strong in their assessment of all the issues. shrike3 May 3 #48

I think I implied your sentiments. They have strength in cachukis May 3 #49

It's too bad. Maybe it's youth. The inability to see the big picture. shrike3 May 3 #50

They don't seek out their elders. cachukis May 3 #51

TBF, I don't recall my friends and I seeking out their elders, either. shrike3 May 4 #64

I was referring to the ages. I mentioned we do it too. cachukis May 4 #66

Certainly social media plays a role. shrike3 May 4 #75

No question. Simply seeing the change in the cachukis May 4 #77

Kushner is a jagoff, but that's not really what his comments were about. maxsolomon May 3 #53

Either way would not be a good result for palestinians. shrike3 May 3 #63

Wasn't kids protesting Vietnam called similar? uponit7771 May 3 #54

Well, they had Nixon to deal with afterwards. shrike3 May 3 #62

True... they turned against LBJ which turned out to be a HUGE mistake. AnrothElf May 4 #67

I agree. Civil rights protests were so righteous. I'm in awe of those who stood up in them. shrike3 May 4 #74

No respect for people who won't vote for Biden because of his age flamingdem May 4 #88

Clearly you're not familiar with the Black Watch Bobstandard May 3 #6

Black Bloc maxsolomon May 3 #8

It's Black Block! Thanks for the correction nt Bobstandard May 3 #13

Bloc? Not according to my autocorrect. nt Bobstandard May 3 #14

Haven't heard much about Black Bloc these days XorXor May 4 #84

Not really Sympthsical May 4 #92

Bloc not watch, and they are not really an organization, more of a mode of protest. Voltaire2 May 3 #36

I dunno... I remember being a kid... Happy Hoosier May 3 #10

Do you have any proof the students wsre influenced by outsiders? ripcord May 3 #18

The fact that a large proportion of the "protestors" were not students Happy Hoosier May 3 #19

So no proof, it is just one of those things you know ripcord May 3 #22

Media reports are saying a large number of those arrested Qutzupalotl May 3 #23

That doesn't prove that they influenced the students in any way ripcord May 3 #24

How would one prove influence? Qutzupalotl May 3 #28

So you have nothing, not surpised ripcord May 3 #30

I notice you did not answer the question. Qutzupalotl May 3 #33

You made a statemet like that without anything to ba k it up ripcord May 3 #35

YOU made the assertion that outsiders are not influencing protestors. Qutzupalotl May 3 #38

If you bother to read the OP ripcord May 3 #40

There is no evidence they are or are not being influenced Qutzupalotl May 3 #42

LOL the onus is on you to prove a positive, not on them to prove a negative. AnrothElf May 4 #69

I did not make that claim. Qutzupalotl May 4 #72

"Proof" is about being convinced. Happy Hoosier May 4 #70

I don't care if non students were there. The students were adults and didn't need to follow them. jimfields33 May 3 #29

You've lost the narrative. It is very important to express outrage over the outside agitators. Voltaire2 May 3 #37

I AM outraged over these outsiders... Happy Hoosier May 4 #71

For the most part the 'outside agitators' were Voltaire2 May 4 #73

I don't believe that 21 year olds JustAnotherGen May 3 #58

"WE ARE HAMAS!" Student or 'agitator'? AnrothElf May 4 #68

not really Chakaconcarne May 3 #15

I agree that the protesters made their own adult choices. The right ones. Ping Tung May 3 #16

Actually, if the police are at a protest because of civil disobedience, for acts beyond free speech... Silent3 May 3 #20

I'm amazed people believe all you have to do is say civil disobedience ripcord May 3 #25

When I was protesting the cops were hardly civilized. Ping Tung May 3 #26

The police are in no win situation. jimfields33 May 3 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo May 3 #47

You have an odd sense of the absurd... Think. Again. May 3 #41

I must havw missed the part where she told them to engage in hate speech or destruction ripcord May 3 #43

Yeah, it seems you might have missed quite a bit.. Think. Again. May 3 #44

She was filmed occupying Hamilton Hall with them. Then she ducked out before everyone was arrested. LeftInTX May 3 #45

I don't see the problem here. grumpyduck May 3 #46

Remember the guy dressed all in black, masked, who smashed store windows during Black Lives Matter peaceful protests? mahina May 3 #52

ITA JustAnotherGen May 3 #55

? mahina May 3 #59

Here: applegrove May 4 #65

If you want to protest, but you are not a student, where do you end up? Midnight Writer May 4 #78

Reactionaries blamed "outside agitators" for civil rights marches and demonstrations John Shaft May 4 #79

Where were these "students" The Wizard May 4 #80

this is one of the most disgusting things ever posted on DU. Offensive and sickening. TomDaisy May 4 #82

this is something I expect from MAGA TomDaisy May 4 #83

Yeah, kinda makes ya wonder... Think. Again. May 4 #86

Some of the takes on here about the protestors obamanut2012 May 4 #87

"Outside agitators" didn't spray paint and barricade Royce Hall flamingdem May 4 #89

TY! Cha May 4 #91

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