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mackdaddy

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18. So WHY are sports segregated by "Gender"?

Thu May 16, 2024, 08:03 PM

May 2024

It seems to me that this is the root question that I never see directly addressed. What is trying to be achieved?

And this then leads to exactly how do you define 'Gender' for this segregation?

How can you address this whole issue without being able to discuss these questions?

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What is fair regarding transgender athletes? [View all] SarahD May 2024 OP

The science does not back their claim FreeState May 2024 #1

Boys vs Women's Records dwnsouth May 2024 #9

You might want to review EarlG's post on the rules of the forum. Ms. Toad May 2024 #14

High school boys sports records dwnsouth May 2024 #16

Per EarlG (the owner of this discussion board). Ms. Toad May 2024 #26

So it's a topic that can't be discussed, on a discussion board Mosby May 2024 #21

Just like you can't advocate that science establishes that whites are superior to blacks on *this* discussion board. n/t Ms. Toad May 2024 #25

What? Mosby May 2024 #27

It's ananalogy. Ms. Toad May 2024 #30

It is a BS analogy. former9thward May 2024 #35

I haven't made any personal attacks. Ms. Toad May 2024 #44

chiming in to say ecstatic May 2024 #63

Unless every athlete who set a record is tested for testosterone levels Ms. Toad May 2024 #65

The post made a statement of fact Zeitghost May 2024 #52

Until it added, "You may want there not to be a physical difference, but that just isn't the case." Ms. Toad May 2024 #55

Again, all facts Zeitghost May 2024 #64

You are expressing an opinion ("testosterone is responsible for some of them"), not fact. Ms. Toad May 2024 #67

It's not my opinion Zeitghost May 2024 #74

I know. We get it BootOutTheGoons May 2024 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby May 2024 #51

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the post! NoRethugFriends May 2024 #31

Except that it advocates a scientific basis for discriminating against trans women. Ms. Toad May 2024 #43

all it does is state a fact. infer what you will from it NoRethugFriends May 2024 #70

I think over emphesis on winning is a big barrier to equal access in amateur sports. Are we watching for winners or ... marble falls May 2024 #81

How many of those Records were made by trans women? LostOne4Ever May 2024 #23

Yes and how many of those record breakers were on hormone therapy? Voltaire2 May 2024 #71

According to your logic a woman should be able to take enough testosterone rainy May 2024 #2

Post removed Post removed May 2024 #3

Yours is a legitimate point of view which means it will likely be dismissed out of hand here. elocs May 2024 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author jimfields33 May 2024 #4

You might want to review EarlG's post on this matter. Ms. Toad May 2024 #15

No they aren't vercetti2021 May 2024 #39

I think the governing bodies of the sports should determine what's fair bhikkhu May 2024 #5

There should be no restrictions. Jirel May 2024 #7

Pro Football Teams dwnsouth May 2024 #11

All the major leagues are completely open (NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, PGA) Mosby May 2024 #32

I'm trans and I really don't care, tbh. Oneironaut May 2024 #8

This! Silent Type May 2024 #49

I'm too disinterested in sports to really care a whole lot personally, but as an issue of fairness for those who do... Silent3 May 2024 #10

Always remember Lurker Deluxe May 2024 #12

Perhaps a reminder is warranted... Patton French May 2024 #13

Trans women are women and trans men are men. WhiskeyGrinder May 2024 #17

So WHY are sports segregated by "Gender"? mackdaddy May 2024 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity May 2024 #20

If they weren't segregated, and biological cis males were allowed into one exclusively 'open' for all arena, women's' Celerity May 2024 #22

and that, in a nutshell, is the very nub of the sitiuation stopdiggin May 2024 #53

Do you really want to see Brock Lesnar fighting Amanda Nunes? Polybius May 2024 #66

Hard to imagine anyone who has had daughters play and thrive in girls sports would make this claim Prairie Gates May 2024 #80

I Don't Think RobinA May 2024 #82

Stop electing people who are influenced by Alex Jones and Ben Shapiro? Initech May 2024 #19

What I think would be fair would wait until their is evidence of a problem LostOne4Ever May 2024 #24

Maybe fairness, or perfect fairness for all, isn't possible... And if so then RockRaven May 2024 #28

Entertainment for you, not for the people participating. former9thward May 2024 #37

exactly. please DO try to throw that in the face stopdiggin May 2024 #54

The anthropological origin of sports is training, and a substitute, for war Ponietz May 2024 #86

People suddenly care about "fairness" because it sounds like a good cover for hate unblock May 2024 #29

Political disttraction IbogaProject May 2024 #34

Do you favor merging all sexes in sports? former9thward May 2024 #38

I didn't say that at all, and there's little "fairness" in any arrangement unblock May 2024 #41

but you didn't answer the question either. stopdiggin May 2024 #56

Because it's an irrelevant question and has nothing to do with me or my post unblock May 2024 #61

gottcha' that's pretty straightforward and on point stopdiggin May 2024 #62

Are you referring to wrestling or boxing with the 95lb to 145lb line? JanMichael May 2024 #46

True- something actually relevant to those particular sports unblock May 2024 #50

we have women's wrestling teams stopdiggin May 2024 #59

Exactly. Voltaire2 May 2024 #72

You Could Do That RobinA May 2024 #84

Post removed Post removed May 2024 #33

Let them play vercetti2021 May 2024 #40

This! Times infinity! LostOne4Ever May 2024 #42

And rules aren't even enforced for it vercetti2021 May 2024 #45

Yup. Ms. Toad May 2024 #58

It's easy: no genital inspections. Shame the motherfuckers for their child genital obsession. AnrothElf May 2024 #47

Post removed Post removed May 2024 #48

Create a new category pfitz59 May 2024 #57

Trans people are like .1% of the population. Oneironaut May 2024 #69

Agree Ponietz May 2024 #87

You could answer the question experimentally DBoon May 2024 #60

I'm staying out of this one Polybius May 2024 #68

Wisdom John Shaft May 2024 #73

I think it's such a rare case that it's a distraction Johnny2X2X May 2024 #75

It seems odd to ask for opinions when the board has specific rules about what can be posted Prairie Gates May 2024 #76

Ding Ding - we have a winner. Fix The Stupid May 2024 #83

What would be fair ... Think. Again. May 2024 #77

Key observation..."evidence doesn't suggest a massive advantage for trans athletes"... Rafi May 2024 #78

Yes and that was pointed out to the OP FreeState May 2024 #85

I believe this is a highly controversial subject Bucky May 2024 #79

To those who missed it the first time around EarlG May 2024 #88