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frazzled

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36. Here we go

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:38 PM

Nov 2012

Trolling for more info to scuttle Ms. Rice's nomination. Who needs the Republicans when we have theories about how some stock might influence her on one subject, or when threads quoting Cato Institute researchers paint her as a war-monger.

Are her financial holdings (of which one should remember that her husband is Canadian) a worse indicator than Hillary Clinton's deputy campaign manager becoming Trans-Canada's chief lobbyist in Washington? I thought not. If Susan Rice is to be disqualified on this count, then our current SoS, Hillary Clinton, probably should be too.

Are there no threads to be had investigating her credentials in what are said to have been her central areas of interest: "U.S. foreign policy, weak and failing states, the implications of global poverty, and transnational threats to security." I'm more interested in that than in what her stock portfolio contains.

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Report: SecState candidate Rice "Has a Major Financial Stake in Canadian Tar Sands" i.e. Keystone XL [View all] WilliamPitt Nov 2012 OP

How utterly depressing. Mika Nov 2012 #1

My thought, my dear Will, is this: CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #2

Agreed...if true, it changes the context of her nomination. Magoo48 Nov 2012 #13

here here. very depressing but maybe they are doing us a backhanded favor roguevalley Nov 2012 #119

That would be a pretty big conflict of interest, then. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #3

First of all, she is NOT a candidate for SOS. This is sh__t made up by the RW media hoping for kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #67

I like her. But I do believe she was under serious TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #73

She also supported Bush on Iraq and opposed ending that war. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #104

She didn't oppose Obama's plan to shut Iraq down, though-- TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #108

If she is named and if she is confirmed, she COULD recluse herself on that decision I think karynnj Nov 2012 #110

Yes--she could leave it to the second in charge at the State Dept. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #121

Doesn't thrill me, either. elleng Nov 2012 #4

Thought the same thing PennsylvaniaMatt Nov 2012 #33

Right, makes sense for public servants. elleng Nov 2012 #42

We did not approve of the excuse of a Romney blind trust, nor should we juajen Nov 2012 #75

Romney didn't have a blind trust CreekDog Nov 2012 #87

Actually, Romney DID claim he had a blind trust dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #107

right. he claimed to, but his "blind" trust was like his hand over his face promising not to look CreekDog Nov 2012 #112

Very illuminating. And not in a good way. forestpath Nov 2012 #5

She deserves all the hell they're giving her, then... even if it is a BS reason. nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #6

Why doesn't she just sell the holdings...? nt Bigmack Nov 2012 #7

Ding,Ding,Ding,we have a winner! Wellstone ruled Nov 2012 #8

Yep, Council on Foreign Relations Dont call me Shirley Nov 2012 #23

I heard Petraus is looking for a new job. Fuddnik Nov 2012 #46

Does anyone really believe that this decision will actually be made by the SoS rather than Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #9

Does anyone believe it would actually matter who makes the decision when morningfog Nov 2012 #25

Hey!, stop with the reality check, OK? DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #50

I probably own stock in the company that own the Keystone Pipeline. But I oppose the bluestate10 Nov 2012 #10

I'm at the point where I'm starting to think DJ13 Nov 2012 #11

+1000 n/t handmade34 Nov 2012 #26

What you suggest is impossible unless those officials sell everything and put the money bluestate10 Nov 2012 #32

Bonds are fine DJ13 Nov 2012 #35

retirement models with scaled back defined benefits indicate a 6-9% return is needed CreekDog Nov 2012 #90

government pensions are only 1/3 of one's retirement CreekDog Nov 2012 #89

quite a scoop if true Enrique Nov 2012 #12

that's pretty damning, if true bigtree Nov 2012 #14

why dont her opponents criticize her for this reason instead of BS Benghazi? NightWatcher Nov 2012 #15

Because her opponents like this particular nugget about her... joeybee12 Nov 2012 #16

then why not support her and sit back and reap the stock benefits NightWatcher Nov 2012 #18

I bet they think Keystone will go through no matter what... joeybee12 Nov 2012 #20

that would conflict with their narrative about Obama Enrique Nov 2012 #19

Because they know that by performing their dog and pony show the Dems will rally around her blm Nov 2012 #39

Well, well, well.... woo me with science Nov 2012 #17

l know i have. it doesn't though. we don't matter after elections are over SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #30

Is she Condi's cousin. Thinking Chevron connection? Dont call me Shirley Nov 2012 #21

Because it's impossible to sell those investments jeff47 Nov 2012 #22

Is this true? kossp Nov 2012 #24

November 8, 2012: Zorra Nov 2012 #27

She is a rich woman who has stock in many foreign companies OKNancy Nov 2012 #28

Ummm ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #29

Ummm waddirum Nov 2012 #118

Your are correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #129

fuck!!! :-(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( patrice Nov 2012 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #106

I reject that "Rice or Not-Rice" is the definition of a purist any more than a single card face-up patrice Nov 2012 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #135

BTW, I've actually put my face in the streets on the XL issue in a state run by the Koch bros, what patrice Nov 2012 #134

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #136

Do you know everything about every issue? You assume XL is all there is to do & patrice Nov 2012 #137

what are hillary's stock holdings? what are john kerry's stock holdings? what are john boehner's spanone Nov 2012 #34

Hillary's and Kerry's holding have been known because they filed it as Senate disclosures karynnj Nov 2012 #114

Here we go frazzled Nov 2012 #36

Rice is not an investment manager, or professional investor. My guess is that with a net of bluestate10 Nov 2012 #55

"Trolling" WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #56

I agree re Hillary also. I don't like either of them, both supported Bush's illegal wars sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #120

Wouldn't any recommendations and/or decisions NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #37

SOS has nothing to do with that, but it is a good diversion still_one Nov 2012 #40

Statement by the President on the Keystone XL Pipeline Enrique Nov 2012 #48

some pipelines are good central scrutinizer Nov 2012 #53

Wait though AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #115

OK, I stand corrected. NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #117

No, it crosses an international border, so SoS approval is necessary. Fuddnik Nov 2012 #54

Post 48 quotes Obama saying the SOS did not support Lucinda Nov 2012 #61

Those of us in the Environmental Sciences have been asking that question AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #58

This is not what they are attacking her on however. In addition, she has not been even nominated still_one Nov 2012 #38

Her husband is from Canada Cicada Nov 2012 #41

Rice can recuse. Hillary Clinton did recuse the first time that issue came up. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #45

Her father was a Governor of the Federal Reserve FarCenter Nov 2012 #43

Her mother was a Vice President of the College Board, the notorious educational testing organization FarCenter Nov 2012 #47

That, too, should be known by more. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #109

Give me a break. $600,000-$7000,000 out of a net worth of $23-$45 million? bluestate10 Nov 2012 #44

That's just how much she has invested in TransCanada. A full third of her personal wealth is similar riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #49

Did her father, who was a finance man will her those holdings? bluestate10 Nov 2012 #57

I don't presume to be an expert on Dr. Rice. I have no idea. riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #65

"emotional reasons for not wanting to let those holdings go"? Yea, especially if they make money. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #111

Her husband is Canadian. frazzled Nov 2012 #72

Yah but she should have seen this as a potential roadblock AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #60

There seems to be John2 Nov 2012 #51

DO NOT WANT dbackjon Nov 2012 #52

yep - most politicians are in the 1%. This is what the 1% does/owns. Our system is the problem. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #59

well, well, well, I didn't like Rice before, and now she goes directly to my shit list quinnox Nov 2012 #62

I don't believe the Secretary of State would have approval over a pipeline... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #63

See post #48 WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #64

I'll be dipped... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #66

aaahhhrrgg They_Live Nov 2012 #68

Let's get this straight SCVDem Nov 2012 #69

same bar for Mitt and Rice Enrique Nov 2012 #74

This is grandpamike1 Nov 2012 #70

President Obama: I am the Pipeline Decider bvar22 Nov 2012 #71

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG Ineeda Nov 2012 #76

I suppose if she were up for Dept of Energy, or the Interior, I'd be more concerned... Cooley Hurd Nov 2012 #77

Statement by the President on Keystone XL Enrique Nov 2012 #80

Thanks for the info Cooley Hurd Nov 2012 #83

here Enrique Nov 2012 #85

Thanks Enrique! Cooley Hurd Nov 2012 #88

I don't know what she would do Enrique Nov 2012 #91

I have to agree... Cooley Hurd Nov 2012 #93

I have supported her, but in my opinion, this should JDPriestly Nov 2012 #78

This just confirms what I've believed all along........... jeggus Nov 2012 #79

there's nothing wrong with wringing our hands newspeak Nov 2012 #138

No way should she be considered now. Just let her leave plethoro Nov 2012 #81

RATS! Thanks, WRP. n/t Duval Nov 2012 #82

geesh!!!???? heaven05 Nov 2012 #84

Give it to my man, John Kerry. JanetLovesObama Nov 2012 #86

Kerry is my first choice democrattotheend Nov 2012 #116

Mass is politically twitchier than that AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #124

Goddammit. I hate it when this happens. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #92

shit. robinlynne Nov 2012 #94

Not. Gud. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #95

Between that and the auction of 20 mil. acres of Gulf oil drilling rights NickB79 Nov 2012 #96

Pile on time! Does anyone else have any negative Rice stories fried eggs Nov 2012 #97

sure quinnox Nov 2012 #98

Great! Let's keep the attacks going! Bipartisanship is fun! fried eggs Nov 2012 #99

well, personally I'm not a fan of war hawks and people with heavy investments in oil polluters quinnox Nov 2012 #100

What, are you one of those "purists"? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #113

So you think people shouldn't know these things? WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #103

Your devotion to small ball is duly noted, and commended hatrack Nov 2012 #128

US Embassy bombing in Kenya haunts Rice godai Nov 2012 #102

Pick someone else. jsr Nov 2012 #101

Wow. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #105

So, now THIS is a *real* reason to oppose her (potential) nomination for SOS? Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2012 #122

Because I like to think that we have more integrity than Republicans AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #125

So, Democrats can't own stock? Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2012 #127

I see your point AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #139

YO William a probloem with this story FogerRox Nov 2012 #123

What about Gary Locke as nominee instead? AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #126

if the republicans are against it --must we be for it????? dembotoz Nov 2012 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #133

What a great stock tip! Oilwellian Nov 2012 #131