This lady is an English teacher who's been roasting incels by correcting their grammar...

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85. The term ESL persists because it's what most people are familiar with.

However, teachers and language departments at universities prefer ELL, English Language Learners, because for some people, English is a 3rd or 4th language. Or, some grow up with two languages from birth, but the non English language has preference in their home. English is sometimes harder for those people.

I once had an adult student in a night class whose first language was Italian. Then he lived in Germany for several years. When learning English, he kept confusing English and German vocabulary and pronunciations because of English cognate words with German. All of his speech had a heavy Italian accent in both German and English.

My great aunt, who came to the US from Germany when she was 7, could fluently speak and read both English and Gdrman. She had a Hungarian friend who knew German because of the former Austrian Empire. So, in summer, the two of them sat on our porch conversing in German with an occasional English word popping up when there was no translation, or at least not one that they knew.