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In reply to the discussion: Susan Rice Vocally Supported the Iraq War, and Every Mid-East War Since [View all]grantcart
(53,061 posts)40. The thing about international success is that it is invisible and quickly forgotten.
Four years ago we were ginning up a major confrontation with Russia. That is gone. We have had multiple transfers from dictatorships to struggling democracies with remarkable little loss of life.
Then there is Burma. I have a house that is less than 2 kilometers from the Burmese border. For the last 15 years I have given up all hope that a major civil war could be avoided there. The Army was so entrenched. And a new generation of leadership came and the President took an enormous risk by making a personal trip there and embracing a very shaky transition.
Now we see for the first time in decades the possibility of a peaceful transition for the people of Burma. Burma is very much like Yugoslavia in that it has no real center and is made up of dozens of ethnic groups that really don't like each other.
But it goes deeper than that. I believe that the President (and SOS Clinton's) major second agenda in Burma was to show the new but isolated leadership in North Korea that if they take a step towards us, even a small one, the President will take a big step towards them. Burma was, behind China, North Korea's number one trading, diplomatic, and military friend. By bringing Burma out of isolation the President is showing North Korea that entirely new relations are possible.
I don't think that the message of the President getting Aung Suu Kyi out of house arrest and into parliment was lost on Cuba either.
Similarly I don't think that the message was lost on Iran either.
People don't see the very nuanced, and high risk, efforts of the President's international movements because the President, and SOS Clinton would rather deflect attention and get results than land on aircraft carrier and have a photo op.
I believe that the President's actions have saved tens of thousands of lives, and his foriegn policy has advanced the interests of peace in areas where there wasn't a lot of hope, more than any other President in recent times. Clinton's intervention in Yugoslavia saved the lives of thousands of Muslims. The President's interention in Burma has done the same, but he did it without landing a military force.
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Susan Rice Vocally Supported the Iraq War, and Every Mid-East War Since [View all]
leveymg
Nov 2012
OP
It's been written about Rice that she reflects Obama's views more closely than any other advisor
leveymg
Nov 2012
#3
No, she actually reflects John McCain's views more closely than any other advisor.,
kelliekat44
Nov 2012
#36
The dog and pony show being performed by McCain and Co. proves that they think Obama's cornered
blm
Nov 2012
#4
Isn't it odd that GOP senators are now praising Kerry who they don't agree with when it comes to
blm
Nov 2012
#8
My feeling was that the Repugs want Rice (she's hawkish) and were hoping to push Obama
KoKo
Nov 2012
#13
I think you're right. They're trying to make it so that he can't help BUT nominate Rice. nt
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#23
I'm not the biggest fan of Rice. I just thought she was unfairly being criticized by the GOP.
vilify
Nov 2012
#9
well..that's what I'm thinking..and of course I could be wrong but it "smells." n/t
KoKo
Nov 2012
#15
I know its impossible but I'd love it if Obama would select someone from outside the 1% as SOS
riderinthestorm
Nov 2012
#17
Susan Rice would not be my choice for SOS......Interesting Article...but then that's
KoKo
Nov 2012
#20
Thank you. There are enough real reasons to be wary of Rice. We don't need the GOP bullshit ones.
Comrade Grumpy
Nov 2012
#21
We should encourage him to take those necessary risks to try to stop the next war.
leveymg
Nov 2012
#32
The thing about international success is that it is invisible and quickly forgotten.
grantcart
Nov 2012
#40
Agreed - I'd like to see Kerry stay in Senate and lead Foreign Policy there, but, know he'd make one
blm
Nov 2012
#42
All through this Benghazi flap I've had this feeling that we are being manipulated ...
Ganja Ninja
Nov 2012
#43
to pick her based entirely on the fact that the republicans don't like her
liberal_at_heart
Nov 2012
#47