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In reply to the discussion: Garland needs to resign for whatever reason he can make up. [View all]bigtree
(91,780 posts)60. Leonnig left out almost everything I posted
..and contradicted what she said in an earlier article:
This July 26, 2022 article by Carol D. Leonnig, the same person who claimed there wasn't attention at DOJ on the Trump WH, including the president, should give pause in accepting the claims that DOJ was negligent in the early days of Garland's time in office.
Here's what she fucking wrote:
Justice Department investigators in April (2022) received phone records of key officials and aides in the Trump administration, including his former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, according to two people familiar with the matter. That effort is another indicator of how expansive the Jan. 6 probe had become, well before the high-profile, televised House hearings in June and July on the subject.
The Washington Post and other news organizations have previously written that the Justice Department is examining the conduct of Eastman, Giuliani and others in Trumps orbit. But the degree of prosecutors interest in Trumps actions has not been previously reported, nor has the review of senior Trump aides phone records.
The Washington Post and other news organizations have previously written that the Justice Department is examining the conduct of Eastman, Giuliani and others in Trumps orbit. But the degree of prosecutors interest in Trumps actions has not been previously reported, nor has the review of senior Trump aides phone records.
...this is Leonnig reporting "how expansive the Jan. 6 probe had become, well before the high-profile, televised House hearings in June and July on the subject."
You can't make this up. The person's article almost EVERYONE, including YOU, are drafting this Garland bashing behind reported in July 26, 2022 that "the Justice Department is examining the conduct of Eastman, Giuliani and others in Trumps orbit."
NOTHING in her later article contradicts the facts of this investigation. Nothing she wrote in that later article changes the fact that Garland's investigators had begun "weighing obstruction charges in connection with the Trump probe well before the Houses Jan. 6 select committee formally recommended that the former pres. be indicted on the charge.
And this: the underlying documents show that the Justice Department fought extensive battles throughout 2022 to access crucial information to support a criminal case.
receipt:
this is someone INSIDE the Justice Dept., not a clickbait reporter who tells two different stories about the investigation:
...Anthony Coley @AnthonyColey (Former Head of Public Affairs, U.S. Justice Dept.)
🧵 on now-debunked narrative that Garland's DOJ wasted 2022...
My great frustration running comms at DOJ is that I couldnt always correct the record on things that were factually wrong matters related to grand juries, for instance.
That inability to insert key facts into the public discourse often leaves the public with a wrong impression or incomplete context of DOJs work.
In the gap, many well-meaning people speculate wildly and often come to wrong conclusions.
For example, in the election interference case against Trump, one wrong conclusion was that Garlands DOJ was slow; inept; behind the ball you pick the euphemism from your favorite talking head.
That was really wrong. (Politico) The filing indicates federal prosecutors began weighing obstruction charges in connection with the Trump probe well before the Houses Jan. 6 select committee formally recommended that the former pres. be indicted on the charge.
And this: the underlying documents show that the Justice Department fought extensive battles throughout 2022 to access crucial information to support a criminal case.
**Throughout** 2022.
The takeaway: Much of DOJs investigative work takes place out of the public eye. DOJ speaks through its filings. And just because the public doesnt see action/movement on a matter, that doesnt mean nothing is happening. End
Link to tweet
...DOJ was FAR ahead of the Jan. 6 committee, which actually hindered and delayed actual PB and OK trials by withholding discovery materials demanded by defendants in those trials for months, until the end of the year.
NOTHING in Leonnig's 2023 article contradicts this Justice Dept. official.
Further, (since you don't seem to be able to read past your own contradicted Leonnig article) :
...first, let's do away with the lie that Garland's DOJ 'waited' for anything regarding investigating the Trump WH.
https://nytimes.com/2022/06/28/us/politics/trump-investigation-thomas-windom.html

...for instance, the financial investigation of the Trump WH and the Save America PAC picked up steam as investigators enlisted the cooperation of perps after the 2021 riot (one of those 'foot soldier' things critics like to deride without a clue about what DOJ has done with those perps).
https://cnn.com/2022/12/11/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-high-profile-moves-trump-criminal-investigations/index.html

...remember, when Jack Smith arrived he was presented with a 'fast-moving investigation' which had already amassed more evidence than what Mueller had at the same point in his Russia probe.
Are you really sure they did all of that in the few months of the congressional hearings, or is there something else you can imagine they were doing?
https://cnn.com/2022/12/11/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-high-profile-moves-trump-criminal-investigations/index.html

...bring receipts, not just one Leonnig article that contradicts what she said in 2022 without actually refuting it.
Tell us all how all of this shows a Garland DOJ unwilling to take their investigation to the WH as so many have claimed without a shred of evidence. Show something other than an incomplete, and untrue article that's been refuted repeatedly.
You can't.
In case you couldn't bring yourself to read upthread:

repeating:
...the financial investigation of the Trump WH and the Save America PAC picked up steam as investigators enlisted the cooperation of perps after the 2021 riot (one of those 'foot soldier' things critics like to deride without a clue about what DOJ has done with those perps).

...next time bring more receipts than that discredited bore from WaPo.
Marcy Wheeler's "re-up about flood of ignorant bs about what the investigation took to get to this indictment."
emptywheel @emptywheel
Gonna reup this bc there is a flood of ignorant bullshit about what the investigation took to get to this weeks' indictment. Here are the accounts that Rudy claimed (if you can believe him) he conducted his coup plotting on.

emptywheel @emptywheel · 21h
This alleged conspiracy was conducted BY LAWYERS using ENCRYPTED APPs. If you read something about how long this investigation took that doesn't address those two facts, you can use it as kitty litter.
emptywheel @emptywheel · 21h
We know the phones used in this conspiracy were seized on the following dates: Rudy: April 28, 2021 John Eastman: June 2022 Jeffrey Clark: June 2022 Boris Epshteyn: September 2022 Mike Roman: September 2022 Each phone of a lawyer will take AT LEAST 6 months to review.
emptywheel @emptywheel 21h
Rudy's privilege review, which was set into motion on LITERALLY Lisa Monaco's first day on the job, took 9 months. DOJ successfully got EVERYTHING reviewed, meaning when J6 got PC for it, the content was ready.
emptywheel @emptywheel · 21h
We can't prove when Jan6 got Rudy's January 6 content, but there are at least 5,000 items from the phone seized on April 28, 2021 that were from Jan6 conspiring. Bc DOJ did a Special Master, it appears Rudy failed to invoke privilege over anything that was not his own lawyer.
emptywheel @emptywheel · 21h
And as this post lays out, not only was DOJ taking overt steps in the fake electors plot b4 J6C's first hearing, but their FOCUS was different--and in a way that might suggest DOJ's leads came from Rudy's phones.
emptywheel @emptywheel · 21h
So JUST on the fact that this conspiracy was committed BY LAWYERS using ENCRYPTED APPS explains a great deal of what has taken 2 years. Now add in EP claims. It took from 7/22 to 4/27/23 to work through all the high level EP witnesses.
emptywheel @emptywheel · 21h
Here's a list (as of January) of all the OTHER lawyers who were witnesses and subjects in this investigation. The list is now over 30. Again, with each one, you have to do privilege reviews.
emptywheel @emptywheel 19h
Incidentally if you think 6 months for a lawyer phone review is a lot, consider James O'Keefe. The review of HIS phone has been going on 636 days, since November 5, 2021.
thread unrolled here:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1687118267704651777.html
Gonna reup this bc there is a flood of ignorant bullshit about what the investigation took to get to this weeks' indictment. Here are the accounts that Rudy claimed (if you can believe him) he conducted his coup plotting on.

emptywheel @emptywheel · 21h
This alleged conspiracy was conducted BY LAWYERS using ENCRYPTED APPs. If you read something about how long this investigation took that doesn't address those two facts, you can use it as kitty litter.
emptywheel @emptywheel · 21h
When a conspiracy is conducted BY LAWYERS on ENCRYPTED APPS, it means you have to go phone by phone (bc that's how you get the encrypted apps), and for each one conduct a privilege review.
emptywheel @emptywheel · 21h
We know the phones used in this conspiracy were seized on the following dates: Rudy: April 28, 2021 John Eastman: June 2022 Jeffrey Clark: June 2022 Boris Epshteyn: September 2022 Mike Roman: September 2022 Each phone of a lawyer will take AT LEAST 6 months to review.
emptywheel @emptywheel 21h
Rudy's privilege review, which was set into motion on LITERALLY Lisa Monaco's first day on the job, took 9 months. DOJ successfully got EVERYTHING reviewed, meaning when J6 got PC for it, the content was ready.
*Monaco tasked Thomas Windom in Fall 2021, a little-known federal prosecutor, to oversee key elements of the Justice Departments investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.
emptywheel @emptywheel · 21h
We can't prove when Jan6 got Rudy's January 6 content, but there are at least 5,000 items from the phone seized on April 28, 2021 that were from Jan6 conspiring. Bc DOJ did a Special Master, it appears Rudy failed to invoke privilege over anything that was not his own lawyer.
emptywheel @emptywheel · 21h
And as this post lays out, not only was DOJ taking overt steps in the fake electors plot b4 J6C's first hearing, but their FOCUS was different--and in a way that might suggest DOJ's leads came from Rudy's phones.
Nonzero: On Evidence-Based Investigations and Rudy Giulianis Devices June 26, 2023, by emptywheel
https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/06/26/nonzero-on-evidence-based-investigations-and-rudy-giulianis-devices/
emptywheel @emptywheel · 21h
So JUST on the fact that this conspiracy was committed BY LAWYERS using ENCRYPTED APPS explains a great deal of what has taken 2 years. Now add in EP claims. It took from 7/22 to 4/27/23 to work through all the high level EP witnesses.
emptywheel @emptywheel 21h
Also: The investigation into Sidney Powell, CC3, was overt by September 2021.
No idea when or if they got her phone. But the investigation into her was literally overt before J6C issued their first subpoena.
emptywheel @emptywheel · 21h
Here's a list (as of January) of all the OTHER lawyers who were witnesses and subjects in this investigation. The list is now over 30. Again, with each one, you have to do privilege reviews.
emptywheel @emptywheel 19h
Incidentally if you think 6 months for a lawyer phone review is a lot, consider James O'Keefe. The review of HIS phone has been going on 636 days, since November 5, 2021.
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attacks on Biden's AG should come with more than just an anti-Biden administration AG screed
bigtree
Jun 2024
#4
If there are people "criming" and garland isn't doing anything about it....
Think. Again.
Jun 2024
#10
I have not heard of Biden expressing any support, or non-support, of garland....
Think. Again.
Jun 2024
#18
Because there are people on here that were celebrating a few weeks ago and and saying..
DemocratInPa
Jun 2024
#21
Congress members led 'reconnaissance tours' of Capitol before attack, evidence suggests
Celerity
Jun 2024
#49
No way to know if there is not a deep dive into it. I was just putting out info that the other poster said they couldn't
Celerity
Jun 2024
#72
All those convicted bankrobbers who didn't actually have a real gun thank you.
Think. Again.
Jun 2024
#42
Not until after the election. He does need to go though as he hasn't done a good job.
brush
Jun 2024
#40
Hell No - Absolute hottest of the hottest takes. Next you'll be calling for Jack Smith to resign "for reasons."
emulatorloo
Jun 2024
#52
Yup, and their numbers seem to be growing and they are getting more vocal.
republianmushroom
Jun 2024
#69