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BlueCheeseAgain

(1,983 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 02:11 AM Jul 2024

Please don't turn DU into an echo chamber. [View all]

This discussion thread was locked by EarlG (a host of the General Discussion forum).

I get that most people here want President Biden to remain on the ticket, and are frustrated that other Democrats think there's a better chance of defeating Trump with a different candidate. That is completely reasonable.

What seems less reasonable to me is trying to squelch any information or information source that contradicts this.

Based on the the most recommended posts, it appears majority opinion on DU is this:

* The following news sources are right-wing corporatist tools that are trying to destroy Joe Biden: NYT, WaPo, CNN, HuffPo, and large parts of MSNBC. I'm not even sure what remains after all that.

* People who are worried that Biden may not be able to beat Trump are rats (picture helpfully included), trolls, traitors, Russian agents, stupid, ratf**kers, and literally want Trump to win.

* Polls by reputable firms are rigged and not predictive. Except the ones that show other Democratic candidates running behind Trump.

* Elected Democrats that were highly respected last week-- Schiff, Nadler, Healey, etc-- are misinformed, gullible, and deserve to be boycotted.

A real case-in-point example came when longtime DUer brooklynite posted an article from the NYT in which a radio host said that the Biden campaign had sent her the questions for an interview in advance. These were the reactions:

* The NYT is full of lies, so it must be false. (Never mind that there was video of the radio host saying it herself.)
* CNN, which also ran the story, is also full of lies.
* This is standard practice in journalism. (Does this mean the NYT and CNN weren't lying?)
* Personal insults against the person who posted it, and questions about their motives.
* Arguments that such articles should not be posted at DU.

After hardly ever being called for DU jury duty, I'm getting requests every day now, on the most innocuous posts.

I understand that tensions are high. But we can't close ourselves off so that every news source, every poll, and every dissenting opinion-- even by people we admired-- is ascribed to some conspiracy against one man. That's the way Republicans think about Trump. It's not worthy of us.

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Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #1
indeed Skittles Jul 2024 #2
Yeah, OK canetoad Jul 2024 #7
Yes, it's getting ugly and fanatical around here, as if that is somehow part of the energy needed to win Silent3 Jul 2024 #3
Which part of President Biden saying he will not step down do you not understand? This has nothing to do JohnSJ Jul 2024 #6
Nailed it! PortTack Jul 2024 #9
Yes, this Hekate Jul 2024 #29
Please make this an OP mcar Jul 2024 #63
Promoting the view that the Democratic Party's wnylib Jul 2024 #31
Who won the last debate? Eko Jul 2024 #4
That was NO BlueMTexpat Jul 2024 #16
Thanks Blue. Eko Jul 2024 #17
The 'debate' was organized by the Biden Team. rpannier Jul 2024 #30
It still wasn't BlueMTexpat Jul 2024 #45
I don't base this vote on debate captains, I base it on the leadership of the person in office Bengus81 Jul 2024 #46
Think of the "debate" this way: jmbar2 Jul 2024 #52
I'm not voting for a debate performance and "who won" depends on your perspective. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #57
President Biden said he will not step down. That is it. There is no squelching of anything. JohnSJ Jul 2024 #5
the TSF bdamomma Jul 2024 #40
Politicians say a lot of things. And like all people, they can change their minds. Jose Garcia Jul 2024 #43
For goodness sake, he is the siting president primary winner and has said he is NOT getting out. Please stop. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #47
Echo chamber? Echo? Echo? Echo? Echo? usonian Jul 2024 #8
Exactly..throwing "stuff" right back and reminding ppl of the facts is not an echo chamber. PortTack Jul 2024 #11
You may be right in this case, I'll let that be decided by the white house. But DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #10
A wise saying...used here in this discussion...Not helpful...think about it! PortTack Jul 2024 #12
Okay, but I thought that was the OP point, to hear other sides of a scenario nt DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #13
The list is pretty much the same list Qwackanoners & MAGA have of the "deep state" to be banned/boycotted/deleted. Marcus IM Jul 2024 #15
That's a good point. Eko Jul 2024 #20
Do you support President Biden's renomination by the Democratic party, DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #18
"Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Maga Party?" Bucky Jul 2024 #33
Oh ffs themaguffin Jul 2024 #51
DU has Not or Ever has been an "Echo Chamer".. I'm Insulted that Cha Jul 2024 #19
Bam. Eko Jul 2024 #21
Wow.. Cha Jul 2024 #22
Apparently supporting the Dem presidential nominee on a forum for supporters of the Democratic Party is being: betsuni Jul 2024 #24
Yeah, That Needs to Be Nipped in The Cha Jul 2024 #27
Hear, hear!!!!!!! BigmanPigman Jul 2024 #28
I agree BigmanPigman bdamomma Jul 2024 #42
They sure are familiar, aren't they? mcar Jul 2024 #64
I agree. I usually come to this site for info. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #23
Four months out what we need now is party unity. President Biden Emile Jul 2024 #25
Until and if Biden steps down ibegurpard Jul 2024 #26
If we don't want blue-wave Jul 2024 #32
I support Biden, and I agree with BlueCheese. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #34
My two cents, and that's what it is worth! HeartsCanHope Jul 2024 #35
I'm listening to one of the sources. I trust the most, Joe Biden. Walleye Jul 2024 #55
For months the media has been "reporting " concerns about Biden's age Raven123 Jul 2024 #36
This is no time to get all mavericky, at least not here. ucrdem Jul 2024 #37
I'm mostly in the majority, yet I recommend this post. lostnfound Jul 2024 #38
that's just insulting to folks here bigtree Jul 2024 #39
If anyone echos RW talking points send 'em to a jury; stay united, no cracks DoBW Jul 2024 #41
Please don't turn DU into Corporate Media Underground SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2024 #44
This is why I get all my news from livejournal Sympthsical Jul 2024 #48
Well Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #49
I agree. I've been only supporting Biden on here but I will admit I'm very nervous about this situation Quixote1818 Jul 2024 #50
It always has been an echo chamber, nothing has changed. nt doc03 Jul 2024 #53
Everybody read the TOS? Support Democrats. Do not bash Democratic figures. shrike3 Jul 2024 #54
Are you claiming the pundit/commentators aren't an echo chamber? Plus Washington Post got two stories wrong yesterday, emulatorloo Jul 2024 #56
Don't mistake my anger for frustration. Iggo Jul 2024 #58
We support our nominee. End of story! edisdead Jul 2024 #59
It isn't a conspiracy to call out our leaders who are actively sabotaging our candidate. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #60
I recognize what this is. edisdead Jul 2024 #61
Why should we have our vote negated by a very few? Why should we go quietly along with it? marble falls Jul 2024 #62
Until such time that Joe Biden chooses to step down, he's the nominee, and is protected by DU rules EarlG Jul 2024 #65
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