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iemanja

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Tue Jul 16, 2024, 03:25 AM Jul 16

The conspiracy theories make us look bad [View all]

Why is it so hard to accept that someone tried to shoot Trump? Why do so many of you need to concoct convoluted theories to explain it away? WaPo has an article about it. The internet is awash with it. They are calling it BlueAnon. BlueAnon, like QAnon.

Minutes after Saturday’s shooting at a Trump rally in Butler, Pa., liberals began flooding social media platforms with conspiracy theories. They claimed the blood on former president Donald Trump’s ear was from a theatrical gel pack; that the shooting was a “false flag,” perhaps coordinated by the Secret Service in collaboration with the Trump campaign; that the scene of a bloodied Trump raising his fist under an American flag was “#staged.”

“When did the Secret Service start allowing the President under duress to tell them ‘to wait’, then stand up to be seen by the crowd fist-pumping?” one user posted on X. “Can you blame me for thinking this is fake?”

The shooting threw into overdrive a phenomenon dubbed “BlueAnon” — a play on the right-wing conspiracy theory QAnon — that refers to liberal conspiracy theories online. As more Americans lose trust in mainstream institutions and turn to partisan commentators and influencers for information, experts say they are seeing a big uptick in the manufacture and spread of BlueAnon conspiracy theories, a sign that the communal warping of reality is spreading well beyond the right.

“The good-versus-evil paradigm of QAnon has really taken hold of the anti-Trump movement and you’re seeing two sides that feel like they are fighting a battle between good and evil,” said Mike Rothschild, author of “The Storm Is Upon Us: How QAnon Became a Movement, Cult and Conspiracy Theory of Everything.” “It’s coming from major leftist and liberal ‘resistance’ influencers who believe that Trump is so devious that he’d fake his own assassination attempt in order to help his campaign.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/07/14/blueanon-conspiracy-theories-trump-rally-shooting/

All this stuff is an embarrassment. Do you really want to be equated to the QAnon followers? Please, don't be like them. Something bad happened. It's not that complicated. Other presidents have had assassination attempts before. It happens. Guns proliferate, and the killer was a conservative with lots of rounds of ammunition. It's a miracle that more politicians haven't been killed. Lord knows lots of school children have been.
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What would you say is Trump's record on telling the truth? ZZenith Jul 16 #1
This has absolutely nothing to do with his truthfulness iemanja Jul 16 #2
I'm not justifying the continued belief in such a thing. ZZenith Jul 16 #4
Knee jerk reactions are one thing... robbob Jul 16 #22
Sorry, but it's entirely too early in the investigation... Wuddles440 Jul 16 #36
What-aboutism is the weakest excuse for CTs. "Conceivable" includes "realisticly almost impossible". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 16 #10
The dead firefighter was in on it as were the severely wounded BeyondGeography Jul 16 #3
Rest in Peace. Also, not even tRump would put himself in rifle sights of 20 yo troubled man. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 16 #11
That's the biggest reason why you know it wasn't staged Dorian Gray Jul 16 #20
Perhaps staged and he didn't know ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 16 #52
Trump does not care if people die Blue Full Moon Jul 16 #30
Even himself? nt yagotme Jul 16 #39
Nothing is going to happen to him, he's much to important. Blue Full Moon Jul 16 #40
Headshot at 130 yards is easy for some, difficult for others. yagotme Jul 16 #42
So you think they deliberately allowed it to happen? iemanja Jul 16 #46
Snipers were inside buildings iemanja Jul 16 #53
😯 I hadn't seen that detail yet. intheflow Jul 16 #63
It wasn't the brightest, to be sure. iemanja Jul 16 #65
I just keep hearing that dialogue from Billy Madison in my head Sympthsical Jul 16 #5
"Just asking questions!" cloaks the real agenda: seeking confirmation, avoiding unconfirming info. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 16 #13
CT that DNC/Establishment/Hillary rigged the 2016 primary gave Trump the idea of rigging and used it betsuni Jul 16 #6
And he says the same thing about Joe Biden who has close to 50 years of honorable service Rhiannon12866 Jul 16 #7
Really? Hadn't noticed those conspiracy theories. How deep did the Post have to dig to find them? Pompoy Jul 16 #8
There was one prominent on the DU Greatest page, so no digging needed muriel_volestrangler Jul 16 #12
There are many such posts on this site iemanja Jul 16 #47
Big knr. Thanks Lucky Luciano Jul 16 #9
we cannot be like them musicblind Jul 16 #14
Well said Deminpenn Jul 16 #16
We have spent so much time trying to not be like them hadEnuf Jul 16 #26
So depressingly true! Wuddles440 Jul 16 #34
I remember being chastised here for saying Russia helped him get elected in 2016. Scrivener7 Jul 16 #15
Can you provide links? Kaleva Jul 16 #17
As a reader I remember it. edisdead Jul 16 #37
Should be easy enough to find using advanced search Kaleva Jul 16 #43
Oh yes, Russian interference was a hoax because Russia was nice and Democrats bad; hacking Democrats' betsuni Jul 16 #24
Bush let 9-11 happen on purpose JI7 Jul 16 #18
After decades of them spraying shit all over reality, I will not defend Trump nor stamp out anti-Trump rumors. GreenWave Jul 16 #19
This. I'm really not going to worry if my distrust of the convicted felon "looks bad" to someone. Scrivener7 Jul 16 #29
Exactly. Everything is a scam, and after that the sarcasm Nixie Jul 16 #35
Right! edisdead Jul 16 #38
Right there with you. hamsterjill Jul 16 #50
In the immediate aftermath sunnybrook Jul 16 #21
It's totaly dumb but the right is pushing conspiracys on this 1000000 times more. Quixote1818 Jul 16 #23
Asking questions about anything to do with Trump is NOT foolish. Irish_Dem Jul 16 #25
If blueanon helps us to win, I'm fine with it ecstatic Jul 16 #27
It is very naive not to question the motives of a ruthless sociopath. Irish_Dem Jul 16 #28
Try just conspriacy Blue Full Moon Jul 16 #31
It's funny how they can literally say or do anything with zero repercussions.... BlueTsunami2018 Jul 16 #32
I don't want to feed this ridiculous conspiracy stuff. But I saw an arial photo of the fair grounds doc03 Jul 16 #33
Discounting everything you don't like as conspiracy is what makes us look bad Blue Full Moon Jul 16 #41
If you're able to provide solid evidence, then it's not iemanja Jul 16 #48
Showing sympathy to a CONVICTED criminal/sex abuser that tried to overthrow the government is what's really BAD tenderfoot Jul 16 #44
Nothing else on the planet is bad? iemanja Jul 16 #49
Your compassion for evil is heartwarming. tenderfoot Jul 16 #54
Nice strawman you have there iemanja Jul 16 #60
Not if they're presented as idle speculation DFW Jul 16 #45
Fox passes it off as a news channel iemanja Jul 16 #51
I just don't really see informal, idle speculative discussion Torchlight Jul 16 #55
The gossip columnist who wrote this is a media whore online suegeo Jul 16 #56
Thanks for your sexist tropes iemanja Jul 16 #59
Of all the problems we face in this election senseandsensibility Jul 16 #57
What's the lack of transparency? iemanja Jul 16 #61
I guess we care about very different things senseandsensibility Jul 16 #64
"Documented"? iemanja Jul 16 #66
Lack of coverage is a form of propaganda and slanting the news senseandsensibility Jul 16 #67
Goalposts moved iemanja Jul 16 #69
it would help if the media was more comprehensive about the reports about his background bigtree Jul 16 #58
We need to be 100% suspicious of MAGA, 100% of the time. Wingus Dingus Jul 16 #62
he first chyrons were laughable... WarGamer Jul 16 #68
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