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ecstatic

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22. The problem isn't Biden, it's our inability to unite around him.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 05:20 PM
Jul 18

We can stick by Biden all day long, but if at least 95% of Democrats are not right there with us, we lose. When we're united and in lockstep, the media follows and voters follow. So getting our own house in order is the most important thing that is needed to win.

There are three factions right now:
1: Those who absolutely and unconditionally support Biden
2: Those who absolutely want a replacement (most elected Democrats?)
3: Those who just want to win, regardless of who the candidate is

Faction 2 isn't budging and they're not going to. They don't do the unconditional blind support thing. They see what they see and it's hard to dispute what they're saying because they're right: Biden is old. On TV at times he looks around 90 years old. Faction 2 members are terrified whenever Biden speaks instead of just relaxing and going with the flow and excusing away any gaffes the way we've done for years.

So now the question is, are Factions 1 and 2 willing to ENTHUSIASTICALLY unite around Kamala Harris?

Either way, this is a fucked up situation. Biden has more physical symptoms of aging because of how hard he works everyday. His immense knowledge and wisdom is still there but people are complaining about the presentation.

I think the time for him to step down has passed. bif Jul 18 #1
The Supreme Court opened the gates of hell orangecrush Jul 18 #3
Apparently many Party Leaders are thinking that happens either way. maxsolomon Jul 18 #6
Party leaders are looking at the poll numbers - which are collapsing on all fronts. PeaceWave Jul 18 #14
Agreed. That ship has sailed by now. 0rganism Jul 18 #12
I fail to see Mz Pip Jul 18 #2
It's crazy orangecrush Jul 18 #4
MUST BE Harris or we will not win one state krawhitham Jul 18 #9
Dems will win WA no matter who is nominated. Same for OR & CA. maxsolomon Jul 18 #15
I agree. Mz Pip Jul 18 #17
Where is wryter2000 Jul 18 #5
You just said it. orangecrush Jul 18 #7
Hell no! berniesandersmittens Jul 18 #11
Beat me to it! we can do it Jul 18 #25
The TOS says advocating for it is against the rules Sympthsical Jul 18 #8
NO! lees1975 Jul 18 #10
How about unknown??? I'm in a state of total confusion. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 18 #13
Democracy isn't about experts orangecrush Jul 18 #20
If you want a fair poll... BlueCheeseAgain Jul 18 #16
And what would a "fair poll" be? The Russian ones that the media uses that used to be recognizeable? lees1975 Jul 18 #33
The same question without a preamble would be fairer, yes. BlueCheeseAgain Jul 18 #34
Absolutely not DemonGoddess Jul 18 #18
Can we send our poll results to Biden to cheer him up? BigmanPigman Jul 18 #19
I don't see why not orangecrush Jul 18 #21
The problem isn't Biden, it's our inability to unite around him. ecstatic Jul 18 #22
Rightly or wrongly, optics have been the deciding factor in a number of Presidential elections. Silent Type Jul 18 #26
I am supporting the Biden-Harris ticket LetMyPeopleVote Jul 18 #23
Biden should have stuck with the transitional president idea... polichick Jul 18 #24
I originally thought yes Polybius Jul 18 #27
Hell No! LoisB Jul 18 #28
When they go low, we vote Joe jmbar2 Jul 18 #29
Only step down if some NEW MEDICAL diagnosis making him unable to serve, in which case he resigns immediately Freethinker65 Jul 18 #30
I believe orangecrush Jul 19 #35
Dark Brandon is Our Best Candidate PikaBlue Jul 18 #31
I believe orangecrush Jul 18 #32
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