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56. Bits of plastic, wood from the stage

Thu Jul 25, 2024, 01:31 AM

Jul 2024

bone fragments from the man who was killed, bits of fragmented bullet - not having access to anything not published - and not being a forensic medical person - I can't say

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Wray casts doubt Trump struck by bullet [View all] Pototan Jul 2024 OP

When TSF said he was hit by a bullet, gab13by13 Jul 2024 #1

Shrapnel from what? former9thward Jul 2024 #4

That's not accurate. LisaL Jul 2024 #7

What was broken between the shooter and Trump's head? former9thward Jul 2024 #11

The photo with the streak, fargone Jul 2024 #18

There was tons of sound equipment on the stage, not to mention the metal stands themselves that could send off shrapnel. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #42

Excellent post, thanks! Brenda Jul 2024 #72

No, I will not stfu. former9thward Jul 2024 #120

Exactly what CTs are being spread about "shrapnel"? Brenda Jul 2024 #125

I'm gonna guess Pototan Jul 2024 #8

Really? former9thward Jul 2024 #10

When confronted with Trump's truthfulness Pototan Jul 2024 #12

That's the logical fallacy known as Appeal To Authority -- "He says so, so there!". . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #15

That's Not Always A Fallacy, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2024 #79

Yes, but it is a fallacy in this case. Though the chief knows more than us, there is Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #81

A light wasn't it? Katcat Jul 2024 #20

Scripps News fact-checked the teleprompter theory. summer_in_TX Jul 2024 #24

Bits of plastic, wood from the stage Retrograde Jul 2024 #56

The man who died was behind rump from the direction of the shooter thatdemguy Jul 2024 #106

it doesn't matter. Groundhawg Jul 2024 #2

Why not? newdeal2 Jul 2024 #3

The main fact is that there was an attempt to assassinate tRump Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #67

It does matter. Trump says the bullet grazed his ear, radius777 Jul 2024 #147

FACTS MATTER Skittles Jul 2024 #5

It may not matter to you Pototan Jul 2024 #6

Wow, you've really done it now. You've caught tRump telling a lie! Finally! Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #17

Not Really charliea Jul 2024 #32

"no images"? The pictures of the wound are available all over the web. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #62

An absolutely absurd hypothetical Pototan Jul 2024 #60

Oh, so now glass truthers think this is a popularity contest. Go right ahead and believe "recs" are truth. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #63

We post to convince others Pototan Jul 2024 #65

What happens is glass truthers attract glass truthers who "rec" Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #66

The OP does not even have any text from me Pototan Jul 2024 #68

Are you implying that we are not allowed to reply to you? Nonsense. "Doubt" is not "fact". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #69

Look, I don't know what you're driving at Pototan Jul 2024 #71

OK, thank you. Skepticism is fine, but so much of the glass truther writing accepts as facts things that are not. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #74

I agree Meowmee Jul 2024 #77

Yes it does canetoad Jul 2024 #9

Yes it Most Certainly Does Matter. Cha Jul 2024 #34

au contraire BoRaGard Jul 2024 #102

My theory is a KFC chicken bone fragment was stuck in his hair. BluesRunTheGame Jul 2024 #13

DRUMPF IS AN ACTOR FrenchCitizen Jul 2024 #14

Trump wasn't hit by a bullet Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #16

And the timing matters. calimary Jul 2024 #38

Does he still have an ear? Generic Brad Jul 2024 #19

Show us the ear, the first pics after it happened Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #21

The teleprompter was not broken. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #50

There was a lot of other equipment for the bullets to hit (metal bleachers, speakers). Shrapnel definitely went flying. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #84

Again, thanks for providing a news report of evidence of shrapnel. Brenda Jul 2024 #99

The teleprompter was not the only piece of equipment on the stage. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #87

I wasn't disputing that. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #138

The corner was, I saw it in a still picture on David Packman program. Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #96

Find a better picture and zoom in. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #137

The glass was not broken. Facts don't matter to glass truthers Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #64

We're not talking about glass. We're talking about metal or plastic shrapnel. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #85

Yes, the truthers are. I was responding to post 21 which claims the teleprompter was broken. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #86

Being skeptical of Trump's claim is not being a "truther." Wray isn't a truther. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #92

Thank you. Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #98

The fact that the doctors haven't spoke out oldmanlynn Jul 2024 #22

Actually all it probably reveals is that they were threatened if they revealed anything. summer_in_TX Jul 2024 #25

Just like all medical workers are defacto threatened SilasSouleII Jul 2024 #31

Exactly. summer_in_TX Jul 2024 #33

first, it is HIPAA Skittles Jul 2024 #49

Until they release the medical report we do not know what his injury was or what caused it. Ford_Prefect Jul 2024 #23

Whas that Dr Vinny Boombatz Jackson who treated him ? CentralMass Jul 2024 #30

This is what happens when people declare something before having all the facts Bev54 Jul 2024 #26

What's the big deal? pat_k Jul 2024 #27

In 2004 Pototan Jul 2024 #39

+1 OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2024 #46

Not sure it is an apt comparison. pat_k Jul 2024 #52

Fun fact GigiLeigh Jul 2024 #54

Good point Pototan Jul 2024 #57

The big deal is he LIED and said he "took a bullet for democracy"--to get sympathy votes. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #41

I get your point, however... pat_k Jul 2024 #45

He's using a lie to get votes. It's election fraud, like lying about Stormy. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #51

OK. pat_k Jul 2024 #53

even that wouldn't change anything. Groundhawg Jul 2024 #75

Acting like it's nothing certainly won't change anything. nt SunSeeker Jul 2024 #82

While children take bullets at schools because he advocates for high capacity guns Bluethroughu Jul 2024 #105

I posted this before, youtubers are testing this thatdemguy Jul 2024 #109

Because Trump is a cult leader SomedayKindaLove Jul 2024 #44

FACTS SHOULD MATTER Skittles Jul 2024 #48

In GQP/MAGA world it has moniss Jul 2024 #28

doesn't matter... myohmy2 Jul 2024 #29

If the marmalade shartcannon was struck by an actual bullet..... Brother Buzz Jul 2024 #35

Has anybody seen a close-up actual photo of his ear? KS Toronado Jul 2024 #36

Yes. The photo is readily available on the internet. . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #88

For your 50,000 show us the ear , Congratulations on your milestone KS Toronado Jul 2024 #100

Thank you :) Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #101

Ear closeup. You can see a bit of white cartilage and two wounds, consistent with the trajectory of the bullet Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #107

In the last photo edhopper Jul 2024 #123

Nope. His right ear is in perspective lower than his left ear, because the camera is below ear level. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #124

I understand that edhopper Jul 2024 #126

The angle of the lens is considerably below the plane of ears, so yes, it would be that much Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #127

I worked it out edhopper Jul 2024 #130

It's possible, but I think the angles are not quite what you measure Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #139

You and me both edhopper Jul 2024 #140

Mind you edhopper Jul 2024 #132

Comparative photo misanthrope Jul 2024 #141

If an AR-15 bullet had pierced his ear, he wouldn't have an ear. I knew he was lying as soon as I saw his ear. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #37

Yep, his ear would have been turned into a bloody mist. Dave Bowman Jul 2024 #55

Nope. An ear is not an apple shot head on. Here's a side head wound. Head did not explode, no "mist" Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #89

So you agree with tRump that it was a bullet instead of a shrapnel? Dave Bowman Jul 2024 #91

It was a bullet. I have not depended on his statement, but tRump is not automatically wrong Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #93

So you're a bullet truther Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #108

Good post. Brenda Jul 2024 #110

Thanks Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #112

Well, DU has a reputation about "truthers." Brenda Jul 2024 #114

I would assume the FBI will figure it out Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #116

The FBI CAN say, but not yet, since investigation is ongoing Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #111

You're just repeating the same speculations Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #113

I could be wrong, but the photos and videos support the bullet but not shard. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #115

So you're "trutherish"? Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #117

Obviously on an opinion forum it is an opinion. I do not need to state that Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #121

Notice no apology forthcoming. Brenda Jul 2024 #118

Yep Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #119

"bullet truther"? See your post #108. YOU are the one mocking with the phrase "bullet truther", not me. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #122

There is NO WAY that hole was from an AR-15. Looks like a very small caliber handgun, or maybe a BB gun. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #142

There is no magical depth where less than it, little damage is done and more than it heads explode Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #143

I don't need to do a "thought experiment." What AR bullets do to the human body is well documented. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #144

Pro anatomy tip: ears have cartilage, no bone. Even tRump's ear. It makes a big difference Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #145

Pro tip: quit insulting your fellow Democrats. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #146

Nope. See post #89 Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #90

Please provide a link. It's hard to find posts by number when on a phone. Thanks. nt SunSeeker Jul 2024 #95

It's right there between your post and the one I replied to Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #97

Wow and this is the head of the FBI Cha Jul 2024 #40

Actually, Wray is a Trump appointee Pototan Jul 2024 #73

Oh Sorry.. I searched and it said "Bush".. Cha Jul 2024 #135

Was watching MSNBC when the attempted assassination occurred. PufPuf23 Jul 2024 #43

so is Trump not screaming about this yet Skittles Jul 2024 #47

Trump doesn't give passes to anyone except for his attempted assassin - what a saint Skya Rhen Jul 2024 #58

well he was a white male, and one of the GOP's own gun humping creations Skittles Jul 2024 #59

Maybe MFM008 Jul 2024 #61

The man killed was not behind him but to his left, between Trump and the shooter. nt SunSeeker Jul 2024 #94

He has not approved... Mike Nelson Jul 2024 #70

So the only fact we have is... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #76

I have always thought a supersonic bullet that close to his ear rzemanfl Jul 2024 #78

Who care? It's time to get over it. marble falls Jul 2024 #80

I'll never get over Trump's lies. NEVER. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #83

IF the medical report had stated "bullet wound" Ferrets are Cool Jul 2024 #103

D response should be "it is terrible that tRump was shot at, and it's important that we know Sibelius Fan Jul 2024 #104

Have a hard time believing D_Master81 Jul 2024 #128

And, so have many others. republianmushroom Jul 2024 #129

Why the bullet captured in the photo edhopper Jul 2024 #131

With all the confusion, I read the shooter fired 8 times, gab13by13 Jul 2024 #133

That's the first I heard about the hose on a lift truck hit and spewed Brenda Jul 2024 #134

A Wray of Hope that malaise Jul 2024 #136