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Politicub

(12,259 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 09:30 AM Jul 25

The unintended pain inflicted on the LGBTQ+ community when it comes to Pete [View all]

Implicit bias has entered the picture when it comes to criticism of Pete. It’s one thing to hold the opinion that he isn’t someone’s top choice. All of the candidates have pluses and minuses.

But it becomes ugly and hurtful when people start saying the fact that he is gay and has a husband is one of the reasons why he should not be VP.

Gay people have been hearing “wait,” “a gay person can’t possibly do that,” and “sit down, I know what’s best for you,” throughout our lives.

We are a resilient community, and have weathered worse.

Still, we need to call out bias when we see it, explain why a comment may come across in a hurtful way, and ask that people walk a mile in someone else’s shoes and imagine what it’s like to hear such comments over and over again.

Then imagine if you had a son or daughter, niece or nephew, or friends that were hearing that some things are off limits to them by virtue of who they love.

I firmly believe that some people will get it, and things will slowly change for the better. Coming out to our family and friends changed so many minds.

I feel so heartened when our allies speak on our behalf. Everyone can be an ally, and I hope that is what people choose other than saying or implying, “no, you can’t.”

I just ask that people advocate for their preferred candidates in a way that does not bring in or imply implicit bias. You can make a good case without casting sexual orientation or gender identity as a negative factor.

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Agree jmbar2 Jul 25 #1
I don't want to negate anybody's feelings, but... yardwork Jul 25 #2
We all live in the miasma of anti-gay bias Politicub Jul 25 #7
lol. That's not what I said, at all. yardwork Jul 25 #11
Well said. H2O Man Jul 25 #56
Exactly. You stated it well. yardwork Jul 25 #98
I agree with this William769 Jul 25 #72
You actually just made the OP's point. Ms. Toad Jul 25 #94
Great! Terrific yardwork Jul 25 #99
So are you posting all over the forum saying that a black woman can't possibly win pinkstarburst Jul 25 #14
That is uncalled for. The poster didn't say that. My daughter is a Lesbian. So I would love to see more acceptance than Demsrule86 Jul 25 #17
It does not matter that your daughter is a lesbian Politicub Jul 25 #21
The belligerence seems to be on one side only in this thread. yardwork Jul 25 #28
+33. Harker Jul 25 #3
The job at this point Zeitghost Jul 25 #9
Certainly. Harker Jul 25 #10
To clarify... Harker Jul 25 #12
What personal details? Politicub Jul 25 #24
I think it's wrong to base a VP pick on sexuality, ethnicity, religion... Harker Jul 25 #36
Just curious Bettie Jul 25 #30
When I was a wee lad I had a cheap plastic roulette wheel, and I was inexplicably attracted to 33. Harker Jul 25 #40
Thanks for telling me Bettie Jul 25 #49
We're alike in that. Harker Jul 25 #55
33 is atomic number of arsenic. 33 is, according to the Newton scale, the temperature at which water boils. A normal Celerity Jul 25 #76
33 thanks! Harker Jul 25 #80
Love Pete, but please don't assume that everyone who favors another candidate... Happy Hoosier Jul 25 #4
Those are all good reasons why he isn't your pick Politicub Jul 25 #8
Pete's sexuality is the only "negative" the GOP has. Funtatlaguy Jul 25 #5
It's a form of progress that the possibility is before us. Politicub Jul 25 #26
Remember this episode of Mad Men.... madaboutharry Jul 25 #6
I'd have no problem with him on the ticket. mucholderthandirt Jul 25 #13
Well said. pinkstarburst Jul 25 #15
To disregard Pete's sexuality and gay marriage to a country FlyingPiggy Jul 25 #16
They will try to destroy every candidate... OneGrassRoot Jul 25 #19
Yes, they will try. But we don't need to help them, either. FlyingPiggy Jul 25 #22
+33. Harker Jul 25 #45
Yes, but you don't need to do that. Politicub Jul 25 #20
Being gay is not acceptable to a large portion of Americans whether we like it or not. FlyingPiggy Jul 25 #25
Got any proof that being gay is not acceptable to a LARGE portion of Americans? beaglelover Jul 25 #29
According to this article w poll numbers from gallup: FlyingPiggy Jul 25 #32
Guess what else is not acceptable? Being black. And a woman in power. pinkstarburst Jul 25 #33
I get that. But I think it is just too much to ask all AT ONCE: black, woman, AND gay FlyingPiggy Jul 25 #34
I don't think it is really a matter of suddenness, so I'm inclined to discount that. Harker Jul 25 #46
I don't disagree w what you say. But when democracy is on the line, I am not inclined to take that chance. FlyingPiggy Jul 25 #48
I understand you. It's not hyperbole to say that our way of life is on the line.. Harker Jul 25 #54
Yet those same people vote for Lindsey Graham? phoenix_rising Jul 25 #62
But Lindsey is not open about it. They can hide in ignorance when they vote for him. FlyingPiggy Jul 25 #63
I guess it's honesty and authenticity that's the deal breaker? phoenix_rising Jul 25 #65
People voting for Lindsey don't strike me as valuing integrity and character. FlyingPiggy Jul 25 #68
Clearly there are also Dem politicians that are blatantly closeted, but I didn't want to call them out by name n/t phoenix_rising Jul 25 #70
Fact. We have no shortage of bigoted assholes in the USA, Greybnk48 Jul 25 #74
I hate that they have done this. SO so much needless division. FlyingPiggy Jul 25 #75
There is a difference between ageism, Ms. Toad Jul 25 #96
Well said. Huge K & R. n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 25 #18
Thank you. Right back atcha. Politicub Jul 25 #23
+♾️ So beautifully said it brought me tears n/t phoenix_rising Jul 25 #27
.. Politicub Jul 25 #31
hugs back phoenix_rising Jul 25 #44
I'll point out something else gay texan Jul 25 #35
His way with words is something to behold. Politicub Jul 25 #39
Like getting insulted by Spock n/t gay texan Jul 25 #42
... Behind the Aegis Jul 25 #51
You inspired me to change my avatar image n/t phoenix_rising Jul 25 #91
He would eviscerate Vance! phoenix_rising Jul 25 #47
I had to look that up! Politicub Jul 25 #69
Love his style! 🥰 phoenix_rising Jul 25 #71
Although it is painful Pete is smart enough to know that this is not the time to put a gay male on the ticket. elocs Jul 25 #37
You don't have knowledge of the operation of Pete's mind Politicub Jul 25 #38
Politics ain't Beanbag... brooklynite Jul 25 #41
I'm sooo jealous that you know him personally! n/t phoenix_rising Jul 25 #43
He came to NYU for symposium on urban issues in 2018... brooklynite Jul 25 #57
WOW!! phoenix_rising Jul 25 #64
Identity politics. Behind the Aegis Jul 25 #50
Your post drives everything home! Politicub Jul 25 #60
I'm an old. liberalmuse Jul 25 #52
Amen JustAnotherGen Jul 25 #53
Thank you for your thoughtful post. bluewater Jul 25 #58
I don't think it means he shouldn't be be Vice President. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 25 #59
If you are looking for Pukes to stop saying things like that pwb Jul 25 #61
We are ready! phoenix_rising Jul 25 #66
It's not about making a point SocialDemocrat61 Jul 25 #67
Said it before and I will say it again LostOne4Ever Jul 25 #73
First good statement on the reality of voting Democrat I've heard Traurigkeit Jul 25 #85
I think it is naive to say that, if we want our Presidential candidate, a woman Scrivener7 Jul 25 #77
I do disregard the people who will "freak out" in this day and age Politicub Jul 25 #81
"Do you honestly believe there is some diversity meter we dare not exceed?" Behind the Aegis Jul 25 #83
Do you remember 2016? We have made progress since then. Scrivener7 Jul 25 #88
This man will be president kacekwl Jul 25 #78
Why this? Why now? So why are we getting this pot stirring now? Why this obsession on having a gay VP candidate without Hekate Jul 25 #79
Because we see posts where people are saying that he should Politicub Jul 25 #82
No one is saying he shouldn't be VP because he is gay. Scrivener7 Jul 25 #90
You put me in my place. Politicub Jul 25 #93
Never sit down, politicub! phoenix_rising Jul 26 #102
This. Thank you. Scrivener7 Jul 25 #89
Because if the argument is pinkstarburst Jul 25 #95
It has nothing to do with whether DU is "better" or not. Scrivener7 Jul 25 #97
So well-said, pinkstarburst! phoenix_rising Jul 26 #100
How about we trust Kamala Harris MorbidButterflyTat Jul 25 #84
This is not about that. It has nothing to do with Kamala. Politicub Jul 25 #86
Exactly right! n/t phoenix_rising Jul 25 #87
The fact that her campaign is vetting him shows she is open to him as VP JI7 Jul 25 #92
Thank you DaBronx Jul 26 #101
+♾️ Yes it should be published! n/t phoenix_rising Jul 26 #103
Yes, thank you for saying it so well wendyb-NC Jul 26 #104
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