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malaise

(278,798 posts) Wed Jul 31, 2024, 07:26 AM Jul 2024

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What explains the contempt so many men have for women? Who taught them this crap?
Perhaps we should start with religious institutions. Our socialization is seriously effed up.

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Serious question [View all] malaise Jul 2024 OP

It's cultural in many ways SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2024 #1

In my case, families. no_hypocrisy Jul 2024 #2

Same with us malaise Jul 2024 #7

Mum Kev80 Aug 2024 #110

You answered it malaise Aug 2024 #111

My father Rebl2 Jul 2024 #44

I had that kind of father, too. hamsterjill Aug 2024 #118

This whole worship of some grand outside presence bucolic_frolic Jul 2024 #3

god given rights AltairIV Jul 2024 #4

Cop pal told me about his mentor/partner when he was a rookie Chicago cop Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #17

Profound malaise Jul 2024 #26

religion is usually the root cause... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #5

Not so. Power was stripped from women before religions were formed. Prior to Abraham, and way before the Greeks, ancianita Jul 2024 #19

You just proved my point. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #20

There are indications that it started with agriculture Farmer-Rick Jul 2024 #33

Much of this began when men figured out they had something to do with conception. YodaMom2 Jul 2024 #43

Yes. The book, When God Was a Woman, BlueSky3 Jul 2024 #76

That stupid fking story about Adam & Eve OMGWTF Jul 2024 #48

That's not what the story of Adam and Eve was about at all. It was about free will having one parameter ancianita Jul 2024 #49

It has always been used... 2naSalit Jul 2024 #93

Sure. I hear you. Whether or not the Bible is misused ancianita Jul 2024 #95

Agree in part. summer_in_TX Jul 2024 #96

Well, the Bible as we know it today was assembled by men who decided... Beartracks Aug 2024 #98

That's quite possible. summer_in_TX Aug 2024 #99

True. ancianita Aug 2024 #102

Thanks for your post. Well, then, ancianita Aug 2024 #100

I went back to the definition of misogyny and realize you are right. summer_in_TX Aug 2024 #125

Followed soon afterwards by the failure of male Backseat Driver Jul 2024 #58

Japan is a very anti female society. JI7 Aug 2024 #124

I wish I had answers but I suspect that religion, superstition about menses, and ignorance are all in play. Lonestarblue Jul 2024 #6

Bookmarked for tonight malaise Jul 2024 #8

Patriarchal religions over SilverDawg Jul 2024 #9

Classic illustration here malaise Jul 2024 #11

Hormones? cachukis Jul 2024 #10

The age old question. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #12

Ding ding. We have a winna!!! Ferrets are Cool Jul 2024 #13

I read a book about this subject,,,, many years ago now. KarenS Jul 2024 #14

You ask such difficult questions. Effed up describes it. twodogsbarking Jul 2024 #15

Cavewomen cyclonefence Jul 2024 #16

I have long felt that men fear our power over malaise Jul 2024 #24

There's a load of truth in this simple notion, imo. MontanaMama Jul 2024 #36

So they want to control it malaise Jul 2024 #38

With most right wing men they have a hard time getting with Eliot Rosewater Jul 2024 #52

I recommend people read the 4 volume world history of women by Marilyn French. The only one of its kind. ancianita Jul 2024 #18

Wow malaise Jul 2024 #27

More books... Silver Gaia Jul 2024 #61

Thanks malaise Jul 2024 #64

You are most welcome. Silver Gaia Jul 2024 #80

It's about time to ban some more books. Prairie_Seagull Jul 2024 #42

I was told by my high school guidance counselor in high school in 1959 . . . Bumbles Jul 2024 #21

Yes folks in those schools malaise Jul 2024 #28

Thankfully, you're never too old to dream - and, with good health, make things happen. Bumbles Jul 2024 #56

Fear birdographer Jul 2024 #22

Always a tough subject for the great and good men on our planet malaise Jul 2024 #30

Along with our freedom as females, the other something bigger at stake is ancianita Jul 2024 #50

Our Dad taught my brother and I to respect women Bluejeans Jul 2024 #23

You had a good dad malaise Jul 2024 #32

patriarchy, barbtries Jul 2024 #25

Lackanooki - it drives the incels crazy RainCaster Jul 2024 #29

Much of it is derived from the male-centric stance employed in monotheistic religious tomes. Magoo48 Jul 2024 #31

Patriarchies do like the Pa parts. Kid Berwyn Jul 2024 #34

Yes, fucking RELIGION. What a scam! People have to stop believing this idiocy. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #35

A great post malaise Jul 2024 #40

Thanks, malaise. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #41

Weak men project their weakness by demeaning women. usonian Jul 2024 #37

Younwould think so? malaise Jul 2024 #39

Great question. LoisB Jul 2024 #45

the strange thing is that it's getting worse paulkienitz Jul 2024 #46

That is what frightens me malaise Jul 2024 #47

Agree. ancianita Jul 2024 #53

Remember the powerful never willing give up their power. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #97

The Way We Never Were pat_k Aug 2024 #128

We know when that desert god came in, the status of women dropped like a rock Warpy Jul 2024 #51

Replacing hunter-gatherer tribes orthoclad Jul 2024 #68

They've got pretty good records of some transitional cultures Warpy Aug 2024 #123

I have wondered about this too. Don't these people have mothers? My mother has always been PatrickforB Jul 2024 #54

All. True - great points malaise Jul 2024 #63

You're right there. It isn't only the churches. It is also corporate culture. It is also the whole PatrickforB Jul 2024 #84

Lovely post malaise Aug 2024 #115

Great question SomedayKindaLove Jul 2024 #55

Backlash against Feminism Chakaconcarne Jul 2024 #57

Misogyny Is a Fear Reaction. MineralMan Jul 2024 #59

Profound malaise Aug 2024 #107

Patriarchy formed to control women and offspring, and men defending territory Beringia Jul 2024 #60

deep down Skittles Jul 2024 #62

Simple - Their Momma didn't raise them right! FHRRK Jul 2024 #65

Monotheism equals patriarchy orthoclad Jul 2024 #66

It is a great question mgardener Jul 2024 #67

I wonder about that too malaise Jul 2024 #69

Where in America is respect for women taught? dlk Jul 2024 #70

America? malaise Jul 2024 #72

Around the world, indeed dlk Jul 2024 #81

Ever wonder why teachers are so denigrated? SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2024 #89

Uneducated people are much easier to manipulate dlk Aug 2024 #121

It was always in movies and TV. I just watched a few early "Cheers" episodes and was appalled at the sexism guised Evolve Dammit Jul 2024 #71

True malaise Jul 2024 #74

The good news is that the Epsteins, Weinsteins, Cosby types have had various conclusions that may deter future abuses? Evolve Dammit Aug 2024 #116

Thanks malaise Aug 2024 #117

Hope they get power soon. We were out 9 days once in an ice storm. Never forget that. Evolve Dammit Aug 2024 #122

Fear of their own inadequacy, I suspect. n/t TygrBright Jul 2024 #73

It's Called "Grooming" BurnDoubt Jul 2024 #75

💯 pandr32 Jul 2024 #77

"religion" did not invent it. I grant that it has mostly made it worse rather than better. soldierant Jul 2024 #78

And that's the hard part. And I have no suggestins for that. malaise Jul 2024 #79

Thanks, malaise. soldierant Jul 2024 #92

Once there was a quaint notion called "Seven Virtues"... BurnDoubt Jul 2024 #83

It's complex and multifaceted, both question and answer MyMission Jul 2024 #82

Think of women in Afhganistan SpankMe Jul 2024 #85

I have theories. malthaussen Jul 2024 #86

Feelings of inadequacy. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2024 #87

It's ubiquitous iemanja Jul 2024 #88

Some boys learn it from their fathers, some learn it from the guys they meet in school who had fathers like that. Martin68 Jul 2024 #90

Biology Zeitghost Jul 2024 #91

Religion for the most part. The religious books be it Bible, Koran or whatever were written by men who claimed God appleannie1 Jul 2024 #94

I'm not familiar with it, elleng Aug 2024 #101

You're damn lucky! Duppers Aug 2024 #105

New York elleng Aug 2024 #106

I'm a man and have no idea why some men are like that. Doodley Aug 2024 #103

There are many good men malaise Aug 2024 #109

Some men Tweedy Aug 2024 #104

Too many possibilities? Experiences vary too much for a coverall answer? Brainfodder Aug 2024 #108

Its taught by word and example down through prodigitalson Aug 2024 #112

self loathing. Javaman Aug 2024 #113

They are afraid of us. mucholderthandirt Aug 2024 #114

I had a thought awhile back Marthe48 Aug 2024 #119

Then there's the vagina dentata myth... milestogo Aug 2024 #120

As a male, I can't explain it. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2024 #126

Not me. I've loved and been loved. Lost one with regret, but ultimately foumd the love of my life. brush Aug 2024 #127