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Johnny2X2X

(21,968 posts)
22. Shelters are underfunded
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 01:56 PM
Aug 2024

In my town, they're mostly private charities who do the best they can, but don't have enough money for adequate security or amenities.

We blew up the social safety net, people used to be able to house themselves if they were down on their luck with support from the government. Those people were more likely to get back on their feet. Once you become for real homeless, it's just incredibly hard to get a job. It's incredibly hard to get back into a home. So people form small communities in a wooded area, or make an encampment by a river etc. They feel safer there than they do in a shelter.

And another thing people don't realize about a lot of shelters is that they aren't permanent, it's first come first serve every single night. So you're not leaving your clothes there during the day. They might have lockers, but those are also first come first serve. They fill up, or they have early curfews so you aren't allowed back in after 9 pm. Homeless people still have lives, they sometimes need to go see friends or relatives. They have appointments still. It can be easier for them to make appointments from an encampment. It can be eaiser for them to keep their stuff at encampments too. Not all, or even most, homeless people are dangerous. Quite often they're in groups that take care of each other.

There's no easy fix, but clearing of homeless encampments is awful and usually very traumatic for the people who've tried to make a home in them. In my city, there are 4 or 5 main encampments. A few of them get left alone and the police usually bring by supplies regularly. There's one downtown that constantly gets torn down, it's the one with the most drug activity.

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A double hot potato of moving people with no place to live and reduced funding sounds super effective. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2024 #1
But there are shelters and other places they can go JI7 Aug 2024 #2
what lifestyle WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2024 #4
? newdayneeded Aug 2024 #13
FALSE nt intrepidity Aug 2024 #5
The shelters are hell holes and not safe Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #8
How about the people who have to live or work near these encampments? newdeal2 Aug 2024 #10
Moving unsheltered people around just makes different groups of people unsafe/uncomfortable WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2024 #11
There are homeless encampments and there are itinerant encampments. haele Aug 2024 #43
Why? tavernier Aug 2024 #19
Shelters are underfunded Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #22
Thanks! tavernier Aug 2024 #27
There are shelters and there are shelters. maxsolomon Aug 2024 #20
this is true rollin74 Aug 2024 #26
Blanket statements don't exactly work here LearnedHand Aug 2024 #30
Appropriate shelters or quonset huts with bunks? haele Aug 2024 #37
More about the issue chowder66 Aug 2024 #14
Problem is the NIMBYs haele Aug 2024 #39
YES!YES!YES!! They are a problem but some cities are not doing anything or way too little besides that. chowder66 Aug 2024 #42
WTF are they going to do with them? Arthur_Frain Aug 2024 #3
This is Newsom using the power of the purse to try to get cities to start solving the chowder66 Aug 2024 #15
I pin my hopes on this part of his statement intrepidity Aug 2024 #6
What does "produce results" look like? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2024 #7
Good question for Newsom. nt intrepidity Aug 2024 #9
Expanding shelters and more housing instead of shuffling them off to a different neighborhood. chowder66 Aug 2024 #16
So how do you do that if your funding is cut WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2024 #35
They've been given grants or money already. chowder66 Aug 2024 #41
Newsom going under the bus. nt LexVegas Aug 2024 #12
He shouldn't. He's trying to get cities to act instead of putting a bandaid over the problem. chowder66 Aug 2024 #17
Homelessness would be an excellent plank to a platform. Prairie_Seagull Aug 2024 #18
Expect to hear nothing about Homelessness in this campaign maxsolomon Aug 2024 #23
Sorry but homelessness IS an issue edisdead Aug 2024 #21
Agreed. There needs to be a stick here, as well as carrots. maxsolomon Aug 2024 #24
Good. WarGamer Aug 2024 #25
How about some Affordable Housing whathehell Aug 2024 #28
There is affordable housing being developed all over CA maxsolomon Aug 2024 #31
Are you a builder? whathehell Aug 2024 #33
No, Architect maxsolomon Aug 2024 #34
I see. Can you tell us what the particular whathehell Aug 2024 #38
The basic issue is that non-profits cannot maxsolomon Aug 2024 #40
Some of these camps Mz Pip Aug 2024 #29
Someone is prepping for a presidential run in the future (nt) hardluck Aug 2024 #32
That's all this is? Posturing for 2032? maxsolomon Aug 2024 #36
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