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Self Esteem

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44. Yeah but she won't.

Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:11 PM

Aug 2024

In 2007, Obama was speaking to crowds of 30,000 people - and filling football stadiums (he had a massive crowd in South Carolina in 2007 at William-Brice Stadium).

She's doing good. But the buzz is not 2008 levels and we really need to put the brakes on things because this election isn't going to be as easy as 2008 was vs John McCain and Sarah Palin. That election was effectively over by mid-September.

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The Harris buzz isn't to Obama 2008 levels - but it does remind me of 2012... [View all] Self Esteem Aug 2024 OP

The Harris/Walz buss is greater than 2008. DURHAM D Aug 2024 #1

Absolutely not. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #4

and I knew people that QUIT THEIR JOBS to work for him in other states Coexist Aug 2024 #15

Portland was bigger than St. Louis. mobeau69 Aug 2024 #33

If in less than a month she's already at 2012 Obama levels... ColinC Aug 2024 #36

She's more comparable to Obama's 2012 levels. But she's still not there yet. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #39

You never know. pat_k Aug 2024 #68

That cant happen this cycle for security reasons - not passion getagrip_already Aug 2024 #101

No it's not democrattotheend Aug 2024 #6

Exactly. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #8

It's actually not. BannonsLiver Aug 2024 #11

She's not been campaigning as long as Obama. whathehell Aug 2024 #70

I think so, too obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #31

Hi. I think it is funny that 4 people have "Reced" the OP DURHAM D Aug 2024 #34

Buzz now sure is bigger! Kid Berwyn Aug 2024 #78

No. I was a 10 & 11 year old living in London when Obama launched his campaign and then surged to a win in the primary. Celerity Aug 2024 #98

It's bigger than 2008. Ocelot II Aug 2024 #2

lol c'mon Self Esteem Aug 2024 #5

Very different circumstances. Obama had months to gin up those kinds of crowds. Ocelot II Aug 2024 #9

She's not doing outdoor rallies due to security. Plus she has been the nominee for less than a month Sky Jewels Aug 2024 #109

Not even close Renew Deal Aug 2024 #29

Effectively, it's only been three and a half days. WheelWalker Aug 2024 #63

Are you saying you don't think the Harris campaign is NOT stronger than... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #3

Do you think Harris will win as many states as Obama did in 2008? Self Esteem Aug 2024 #7

Let's not change subjects so quickly... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #17

No democrattotheend Aug 2024 #38

I don't think any Democratic candidate could get the same 2008 win that Obama. In It to Win It Aug 2024 #95

In the first 2 weeks yes. But man, was that an ugly primary season Coexist Aug 2024 #16

I don't think the OP is discussing a primary though,... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #19

Yes, I know I'm saying it was a long slog before he even got the nod Coexist Aug 2024 #21

I see, I just don't understand why a DU OP would attempt to squash the excitement of the Harris campaign like that. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #23

I don't think you even read my OP tbh Self Esteem Aug 2024 #48

I see, the "realist" perspective. How pragmatic. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #53

Thank you. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #59

Sadly, there seems to be a "competitive" element whathehell Aug 2024 #84

It does seem weird, I don't understand why it would cross anyone's mind... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #85

I know... sheshe2 Aug 2024 #55

More like the Spring of 1968. Tarzanrock Aug 2024 #10

Well, Kamala and Tim have only been at it for 2 weeks MagickMuffin Aug 2024 #12

Actually, Kamala and Tim have only been at it for three and a half days. WheelWalker Aug 2024 #65

You are correct. Kamala received our nomination Mon VP Announcement MagickMuffin Aug 2024 #74

Thank you for stating the obvious. whathehell Aug 2024 #71

I think the Harris buzz is at least as strong as Obama 2008 rollin74 Aug 2024 #13

Some of these OTT posts in the thread are great examples of recency bias. BannonsLiver Aug 2024 #14

The original OP seems to be comparing the first 2 weeks of Harris' campaign to.... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #18

I didn't make the OP so I can't speak to their motivation BannonsLiver Aug 2024 #20

I didn't write either but I did read it. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #22

That's good. BannonsLiver Aug 2024 #25

What would one consider the height of the Obama campaign? Self Esteem Aug 2024 #40

I don't think your post is concerned with the peak of Obama's primary campaign... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #51

My post is clear. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #56

I see, your post is comparing the strength of Obama's win to the first 2 weeks of Harris' campaign. Thanks. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #61

My local Democratic headquarters says they've never Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #24

Wait until the convention and the debate. Klarkashton Aug 2024 #26

Remind me of 2008.What's more hatred for the opponent ent Tribetime Aug 2024 #27

I would be shocked if Harris won nearly as many electoral votes as Obama did in 2008. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #41

I'm sure you would.. whathehell Aug 2024 #72

I'm thrilled but I also know this is a very divisive electorate. 2008 wasn't nearly as divisive, unfortunately. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #73

True, but I don't think Obama could win that many electoral votes today democrattotheend Aug 2024 #96

I agree... Self Esteem Aug 2024 #97

Obama was magic on the stump democrattotheend Aug 2024 #100

This was a much bigger crowd than Obama had in Phoenix AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2024 #28

What's the point of this? Pinback Aug 2024 #30

Exactly - this post is lame FrankBooth Aug 2024 #37

It's not pointless. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #46

Ok, sure FrankBooth Aug 2024 #82

Thanks for the substantive reply! Self Esteem Aug 2024 #42

Kamala Harris has just as much enthusiasm as Barack Obama had, gab13by13 Aug 2024 #32

If I wrote that, I would be lying. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #43

Just an FYI ColinC Aug 2024 #50

FYI Self Esteem Aug 2024 #52

You have blue cities LIKE LA or Chicago. Harris is breaking records in purple and red cities: this is beyond Obama 2008 ColinC Aug 2024 #54

Des Moines is not a blue city like LA or Chicago. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #57

Yes it is ColinC Aug 2024 #58

Then so is Phoenix lmao Self Esteem Aug 2024 #60

Stop bashing democrats ColinC Aug 2024 #62

If I'm bashing Democrats, you are too. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #64

What are the objective, peer-reviewed metrics of enthusiam? Torchlight Aug 2024 #106

I don't know... Self Esteem Aug 2024 #107

Asserting in your original premise that support/enthusiam Torchlight Aug 2024 #108

Very deep and insightful. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #110

You've never been to Des Moines uponit7771 Aug 2024 #93

2008 Obama had more than a year to get to that level.2012 Obama had 4 years to get to that level ColinC Aug 2024 #35

Yeah but she won't. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #44

Putting breaks on things is the opposite of what we need to do ColinC Aug 2024 #49

Pretending this will be a blowout helps no one. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #66

Pretending it will be a blowout and capitalizing on energy to turn it into one: ColinC Aug 2024 #67

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Aug 2024 #45

Can you be a bit more specific? Self Esteem Aug 2024 #47

Okay. H2O Man Aug 2024 #80

Thank you Self Esteem Aug 2024 #83

On paper, H2O Man Aug 2024 #86

A while back, H2O Man Aug 2024 #89

In 2008 snpsmom Aug 2024 #104

I think that the buzz is to Obama 2008 levels.. whathehell Aug 2024 #69

I'm thinking the turnout can be at Obama levels later on, Obama had 6 months of campaigning and great speeches uponit7771 Aug 2024 #94

That works for me. whathehell Aug 2024 #99

Obama had a mountain of mess to clean up: Iraq, housing crisis, banking crisis, auto industry Bucky Aug 2024 #75

Why is it so discouraged by many here displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #76

LOL! What a dopey argument this thread has become. "Is the enthusiasm like 2008 or 2012??!1!?" Scrivener7 Aug 2024 #77

Damn, people. Give the lady a chance. Less than a month in, she's doing great. mucholderthandirt Aug 2024 #79

The Harris campain is higher than 2008. Stop putting our nominee down. Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #81

I believe it is around 2008 level but this time Tribetime Aug 2024 #102

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2024 #87

Feels more like 1992- generational change after JCMach1 Aug 2024 #88

WRONG!!! New Breed Leader Aug 2024 #90

Until you can find an auditorium that houses 100,000 people ColinC Aug 2024 #91

I'll take dumb internet arguments for $100 Alex. BootinUp Aug 2024 #92

Enjoy your stay. Basso8vb Aug 2024 #103

I think it's mostly like Clinton 1992 TRHST82 Aug 2024 #105

This is it exactly... Enthusiasm and generational change JCMach1 Aug 2024 #111