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pnwmom

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98. Those "documentation hoops" are higher for married women who have changed their surnames.

Thu Sep 5, 2024, 10:55 PM

Sep 2024

I tried to order my marriage certificate from the state where I was married, since I needed it along with my birth certificate to get REAL ID. The state finally sent me an email listing the documents I needed to send them to prove my identity. One of them was my marriage certificate -- the document I had just requested from them!

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About a month or so ago, I suggested that everyone needs a passport or [View all] MineralMan Sep 2024 OP

When I came up these were items you stored where you could grab them on the way out of your burning house... pecosbob Sep 2024 #1

Yes. So I was taught. MineralMan Sep 2024 #3

Life is a lot more Murphy's Law than anything else IMO. pecosbob Sep 2024 #8

The universe does not care MineralMan Sep 2024 #15

And do you think the coopted officials at the voting places will always take a passport or birth certificate? erronis Sep 2024 #28

That is a different problem. MineralMan Sep 2024 #30

No, it isn't Cirsium Sep 2024 #80

What is required to vote is determined by state law. Ms. Toad Sep 2024 #73

The GOP aim is to require these as proof of citizenship to register to vote, Jack Valentino Sep 2024 #93

I was responding to a specific comment Ms. Toad Sep 2024 #94

Yes, I am not disagreeing with what you said--- Jack Valentino Sep 2024 #95

The R's plan to hold the US budget negotiations hostage to their proof of identity bill pnwmom Sep 2024 #97

Yes, I think you are absolutely right. It is to suppress the votes of women. erronis Sep 2024 #120

Not just women, but minorities (especially older minorities). Ms. Toad Sep 2024 #123

Yes -- but women are a higher fraction of the population, so R's will cut more votes in that group. pnwmom Sep 2024 #127

They aren't limited to one target population per tactic. n/t Ms. Toad Sep 2024 #138

Of course they're not. But it's long been known that people of color and Hispanics are targeted, pnwmom Sep 2024 #146

I've been discussing it for years. n/t Ms. Toad Sep 2024 #153

Good. We need to keep it up, because the message isn't getting through. pnwmom Sep 2024 #154

At home births have been followed up by birth certificates for quite awhile. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #155

Yes and no. Ms. Toad Sep 2024 #156

With the exception of one grandparent, three were from Mexico and never became US citizens. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #157

I'm less familiar with the process for recording Mexican births Ms. Toad Sep 2024 #158

They were born in the US to non-citizens. His parents, uncles and aunt are all US citizens because they were born here. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #159

I'm glad they were able to accomplish it - Ms. Toad Sep 2024 #160

Only the passport of RealID proved that you are the person registered and not LiberalArkie Sep 2024 #114

That was kind of the reasoning. Ms. Toad Sep 2024 #122

Those documents are required to get REAL ID. summer_in_TX Sep 2024 #109

Yes, to all this. And if the R's succeed in getting the voter identity bill passed pnwmom Sep 2024 #128

I got a next day appointment in Castroville. Bexar County is booked for about a month these days LeftInTX Sep 2024 #162

Excellent information! summer_in_TX Sep 2024 #163

It's probably getting a bit better. But gosh, it looks like there aren't many sites in the Hill Country. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #164

Wouldn't put it past Greg Abbott, Ken Paxton, and Dan Patrick to have limited access for areas that summer_in_TX Sep 2024 #166

The Hill Country is pretty f'ing red. I think they just didn't plan for population growth. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #168

A number of years ago, I read that a number of DPS offices were being closed. summer_in_TX Sep 2024 #169

They were planning to close a bunch. But I think Covid put a damper on their study. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #170

I'm relieved to know that! summer_in_TX Sep 2024 #171

That Delphinus Sep 2024 #48

Me too JJ101 Sep 2024 #21

One of the first things I did when I came back home was to register my DD214 with the county. mucholderthandirt Sep 2024 #67

I scanned all my documents and sent them to myself through e-mail so if worse comes to worse, jimfields33 Sep 2024 #82

Comedy gold! dpibel Sep 2024 #108

My family used a bank safety deposit box for important documents JoseBalow Sep 2024 #42

That's OK, unless the banks are shut down. MineralMan Sep 2024 #70

Never a bad idea to have a passport on the ready... Chakaconcarne Sep 2024 #2

Yes. 10 years. Don't forget to renew. MineralMan Sep 2024 #4

Especially if you are a woman who has taken your partner's last name where your birth certificate will not applegrove Sep 2024 #5

Yes, I mentioned that in the original post. MineralMan Sep 2024 #6

I probably got the info it was an attack on women from you applegrove Sep 2024 #59

I am getting my passport babsbunny Sep 2024 #7

A passport is an acceptable form of ID LittleGirl Sep 2024 #40

You can also use your passport to obtain a Real ID. That's what I used (I think ) LeftInTX Sep 2024 #56

Yes. I used mine, along with my vehicle registration. MineralMan Sep 2024 #134

Social Security is gonna hurt alot of people! I assume IRS? We also have a few other federal buildings in town. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #148

I don't know how much that is enforced. MineralMan Sep 2024 #150

I have both and took both to vote in Texas primary LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #9

Great advise MineralMan. Prairie_Seagull Sep 2024 #10

REAL ID won't work! It is for identity only, not citizenship. More info: OneGrassRoot Sep 2024 #11

Not so. Real ID is designed MineralMan Sep 2024 #16

One would think so... OneGrassRoot Sep 2024 #34

Apparently REAL ID is for both citizens and legal residents -- I did not know this! Surely not state-by-state?! LauraInLA Sep 2024 #44

This is why, many years ago, I took back my maiden name. Joinfortmill Sep 2024 #38

You can obtain a Real ID without being a US citizen. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #57

RealID helps expedite boarding on airlines. Joinfortmill Sep 2024 #81

But non-citizens also have passports from their respective countries. Many of them also have driver's licenses. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #86

Yup, a passport will get you expedited boarding, too. Not a regular driver's license. Only RealID Joinfortmill Sep 2024 #88

People who live in areas of fire danger have evacuation kits at the ready. usonian Sep 2024 #12

Well the smart ones do, anyhow. MineralMan Sep 2024 #19

If you are in an evacuation zone, and not at home, deputies generally will let you go grab stuff. usonian Sep 2024 #31

It's a barrier for poor people. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #13

Also for poorly educated and MineralMan Sep 2024 #18

LOL mobeau69 Sep 2024 #33

From your lips to God's ears! LauraInLA Sep 2024 #45

I did it because of your suggestion. Thank you Mineral Man. Clouds Passing Sep 2024 #14

Just curious Mossfern Sep 2024 #22

The passport office now requires both parents names be on the bc, mine had neither. Clouds Passing Sep 2024 #23

Ah, my friend has a similar problem Mossfern Sep 2024 #32

Depending on what state she was born in, she might be able to find herself on Family Search. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #87

Thanks Mossfern Sep 2024 #103

Have my passport DownriverDem Sep 2024 #17

I need to get mine iemanja Sep 2024 #20

Yes. For your DL. MineralMan Sep 2024 #25

The R's RIGHT NOW are holding the US budget negotiations hostage, pnwmom Sep 2024 #99

And if you're a woman who's been married more than once, two more things NotASurfer Sep 2024 #24

Don't change your name. MineralMan Sep 2024 #27

Yep, seems to be way more trouble than it is worth. TheKentuckian Sep 2024 #64

I had to show... Clouds Passing Sep 2024 #35

Sage advice. nt moniss Sep 2024 #26

I just attempted to get my real ID when renewing my license Mossfern Sep 2024 #29

I think the Real ID license requires your full legal name. MineralMan Sep 2024 #124

Thanks, but Mossfern Sep 2024 #149

The less said about photos, the better. MineralMan Sep 2024 #151

I emailed off my passport renewal two weeks ago. Getting the real ID soon BlueWaveNeverEnd Sep 2024 #36

My wife and I got real ID larwdem Sep 2024 #37

We just talked about it today. Good advice. twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #39

Plan ahead COL Mustard Sep 2024 #41

Actually, I expect that it will do just that. MineralMan Sep 2024 #139

Common sense. I'm adding this to my daily calendar/voting info posts! Wednesdays Sep 2024 #43

And while one still can. Better to have them and not need them than the real disaster of needing them. ancianita Sep 2024 #46

Indeed. MineralMan Sep 2024 #52

If cost isn't a barrier, get a passport card! It's only good for travel to Mexico and Canada, but it fits LauraInLA Sep 2024 #47

You can get both MineralMan Sep 2024 #53

Oh, of course! I just meant that if you can afford to do the extra card, it's easier to carry everywhere LauraInLA Sep 2024 #58

Constitution Speaks2 Sep 2024 #49

Ok figure this out. Remember when they said a voter ID had to be a state issued pictured ID. usaf-vet Sep 2024 #50

Great advice MineralMan. With these inane policies, we'll be a country where anytime the powers that be can say "Show iluvtennis Sep 2024 #51

Passports are not cheap DSandra Sep 2024 #54

True. MineralMan Sep 2024 #55

Consider them an investment in freedom, mobility & safety. They're good for 10 yrs for adults & 5 yrs for under 15 yrs. ancianita Sep 2024 #61

not a solution Cirsium Sep 2024 #60

The poll tax keeps going up. Passports are far from free. TheKentuckian Sep 2024 #65

I thought a poll tax was declared unconstituional by the Supreme Court. CTyankee Sep 2024 #71

This is a backdoor one. In order to access the franchise a person needs to pay for the Passport TheKentuckian Sep 2024 #74

OF COURSE, it is a effectively a poll tax! Isn't this being litigated as just that? CTyankee Sep 2024 #76

Exactly Cirsium Sep 2024 #78

Passports take 3-4 weeks. I just got mine renewed. Expedited passports can be obtained within days. The country is up ancianita Sep 2024 #89

I'm not going to make anything happen. MineralMan Sep 2024 #126

Not about you Cirsium Sep 2024 #135

But you are replying TO me. MineralMan Sep 2024 #136

Seriously? Cirsium Sep 2024 #141

What I post is a representation of what I think. MineralMan Sep 2024 #142

OK Cirsium Sep 2024 #147

I'm not getting a passport arlyellowdog Sep 2024 #62

Thank you for that Cirsium Sep 2024 #143

The passport is the closest document to prove your citizenship ... aggiesal Sep 2024 #63

You are a US citizen if you are born in the US. Unless you renounce your citizenship..... LeftInTX Sep 2024 #90

Right that is why a birth certificate is not a document that proves your a citizen n/t aggiesal Sep 2024 #104

It proves you are a citizen if it is a US birth certificate. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #105

And how do you know they haven't renounced their citizenship? ... aggiesal Sep 2024 #106

Same with a passport. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #107

Not at all. You can only be a US citizen to get a passport ... aggiesal Sep 2024 #110

Well, Oswald didn't.. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #111

If you read this State Department document ... aggiesal Sep 2024 #112

I hate that you're right. All that paperwork is a defacto poll tax. Bucky Sep 2024 #66

Ours are good until 2028 (I just checked, thanks to you) . In 2018 I insisted we update ours... Hekate Sep 2024 #68

Can the bdamomma Sep 2024 #69

I am waiting for my MN enhanced drivers license..... a kennedy Sep 2024 #72

You may be waiting a while. OldBaldy1701E Sep 2024 #116

Damn, and ya it was expensive.....it's been 4 weeks already. 😡 😡 😡 a kennedy Sep 2024 #119

If a case like gets appealed to the current SCOTUS, they'll make actual flat-out poll taxes "constitutional" RidinWithHarris Sep 2024 #75

Thank you for reminding us! ailsagirl Sep 2024 #77

If Trump somehow wins, having your passport may help ensure you are not deported, though that's not a guarantee. LonePirate Sep 2024 #79

I think you're right. nt Frank D. Lincoln Sep 2024 #100

BIRTH CERTIFICATE - that thing your parents got from the hospital with the cute little footprint IS NOT a birth progree Sep 2024 #83

Absolutely true radical noodle Sep 2024 #85

The old microfiche one is no longer accepted either. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #91

When I got my real ID in Florida radical noodle Sep 2024 #84

I cannot vote without my drivers license. Ferrets are Cool Sep 2024 #92

Georgia has been issuing Real ID-compliant driver's licenses since 2012 Pinback Sep 2024 #96

Those "documentation hoops" are higher for married women who have changed their surnames. pnwmom Sep 2024 #98

Yep -- any name discrepancies or address changes make it harder Pinback Sep 2024 #121

Agreed! And isn't Real ID required to fly domestically in the US? CaptainTruth Sep 2024 #101

Oh, the problems Republicans cause. Frank D. Lincoln Sep 2024 #102

I just got a passport! LostOne4Ever Sep 2024 #113

Excellent Advice beemerphill Sep 2024 #115

Great advice PJMcK Sep 2024 #117

Great, except for the bank safe deposit box. MineralMan Sep 2024 #140

It wouldn't hurt to lock down w yubikeys, encrypted Proton email BrightKnight Sep 2024 #118

Uggh. Well I have all my papers ecstatic Sep 2024 #125

You do realize that none of that HAS to happen, provided... Frank D. Lincoln Sep 2024 #137

Plus, you might want to get the fuck out Mysterian Sep 2024 #129

We have them Keepthesoulalive Sep 2024 #130

I don't have an answer for that, really. MineralMan Sep 2024 #132

I like to travel abroad. I need both. Martin68 Sep 2024 #131

Yes. Not everyone is in that situation, though. MineralMan Sep 2024 #133

Ask for a provisional ballot if they question you. The requirements differ by state. flying_wahini Sep 2024 #144

Fortunately, some of us live in states where voter suppression bs is not a problem. Sneederbunk Sep 2024 #145

I'm in Texas. What is a real ID? I thought it was your DL? Catherine Vincent Sep 2024 #152

Check your DL for a gold star. Check the expiration date too. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #161

Thanks Catherine Vincent Sep 2024 #165

Kick and triple kick - GOOD advice. KentuckyWoman Sep 2024 #167