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stuffmatters

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65. The Lessons we learned from Romney's tax return
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 07:08 AM
Dec 2012

Is that the middle class have been paying a higher tax rate than the rich for years. It bis not up to us to now chip in 10%
more from our meager 15000 soc sec via the rigged cola or pay thousands more for raised medicare or let it be means tested into a welfare program, or allow medicaid to be starved an its safety net supporting old age nursing homes removed.

There is public knowledge that existed before Romney's candidacy and after Romney's candidacy. The public learned that the super rich in this country do not and have not paid anything close to a fair income tax via capital gains, off shore tax shelters, son of boss exclusions, renting religious exemptions, tax free pass through trusts, tax free pass through 401ks etc ...while the rest of us every year of our working lives have religiously paid a higher tax rate than these people for decades.

Anything Obama or the Democrats proposed as"balanced sacrifice" is now pretty much an obscene demand to further bilk the middle class while further enriching this tax privileged and ultimately tax enriched class. Rev Al is completely right. We see now that we have sacrificed all along and they have not paid even close to their proper percentage. We have paid our bills and theirs. It is time for the rich and the corporations to pay the bills they have avoided all these years.

We've already borne the pain, done or part, lost our businesses, our houme equities, our retirements etc AND paid our taxes. Now it's time to ask the 1% to do the following & see how fast our deficit shrinks & economy grows:

There should be a progressive tax schedule for income (including capital gains) over 250,000 that STARTS at 39% and goes up to at least 60%. Inheritance tax should also returned to rates at least of the nineties.
Go with the Nurses on a Financial transaction tax . Also eliminate the cap on taxable soc security income. Apply a soc sec, a medicare and a medicaid tax to capital gains (over 250000 if you want to cushion retirees, no cushion if you don't)

The two biggest drivers of the deficit are the Bush wars and the Bush tax cuts, not soc sec (not even in the budget), medicare and medicaid. I'm so sick of hearing these austerity/Wall Street shills on Sun morn talk shows blame the deficit on "entitlements" , social insurance the middle class pays for all their working lives, instead of reckless military and economic decisions made by the Bush Administration and exploited by the 1% and by Wall Street.


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Plus, we bailed out the 1%ers, now it's their turn CJCRANE Dec 2012 #1
ABSOLUTELY! GatorLarry Dec 2012 #48
Pay their fair share? Never Gonna Happen. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #52
Just an aside, we are still bailing them out, and will be while they ask for more from others. jtuck004 Dec 2012 #51
As the song goes dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #2
Sometimes I think Al really doesn't understand American Socialism. HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #3
I think you didn't understand the quote. truebluegreen Dec 2012 #18
I took that for sarcasm. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #29
I guess it's time to go back to the smilie icons! HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #33
<sigh> Second time today. truebluegreen Dec 2012 #37
Because we don't have the political power of the rich and super-rich. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #4
Actually, we hold all the cards, but we do not know how to wield our power. Coyotl Dec 2012 #11
That's VERY true. If EVERYONE got off their dead ass and ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2012 #17
Agreed. 99Forever Dec 2012 #26
Three words: education, education, education Coyotl Dec 2012 #38
Great idea. 99Forever Dec 2012 #42
What we "need" is to stand up and demand what we want, shoulder-to-shoulder. That's not jtuck004 Dec 2012 #57
I don't understand what you are... 99Forever Dec 2012 #59
Occupy was a great first start dreamnightwind Dec 2012 #64
Thanks. 99Forever Dec 2012 #68
We are ignored because we don't use the power we have, because we jtuck004 Dec 2012 #73
Actually we don't. A "democracy" where Republican politicians AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #22
Exactly. We're a center-left population .......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #24
Actually we do, because we elected them. Coyotl Dec 2012 #39
Won't work. The system is set up now........ socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #49
V.I. Lenin distinguished between a 'class in itself' and a 'class for itself,' by coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #70
VERY nice point coalition.......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #71
All we have to do is organize. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #62
k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #5
Du rec. Nt xchrom Dec 2012 #6
Yep! Warren Religion Dec 2012 #60
Thank you, Reverend Al. You've nailed it. Arkansas Granny Dec 2012 #7
+1,000. freshwest Dec 2012 #35
Headline of the day MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #8
Fucking A for Big Al !! Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #9
Much more than just a headline. A fair reality check. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #10
+1,000 to what you said. Well said. freshwest Dec 2012 #36
Iceland jailed the banksters. See where I'm going with this? Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #12
Perfect! etherealtruth Dec 2012 #13
Tax the wealthy until they pay down the debt they ran up under Bush, incl interest! on point Dec 2012 #14
We do to share! JEB Dec 2012 #15
because the delusionally-loud-mealy-mouthed fortunate say so fascisthunter Dec 2012 #16
Workers took "concessions" for 40 years. JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #19
See, that is ANOTHER good point here, that's often overlooked. calimary Dec 2012 #72
+1000 nt LiberalEsto Dec 2012 #20
That Al is correct about this, is beyond dispute. 99Forever Dec 2012 #21
Well put, Rev. Al! SalviaBlue Dec 2012 #23
Except that I wouldn't call the 2% tax rate reverting back to 39% a sacrifice. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #25
DURec leftstreet Dec 2012 #27
Great soundbite! How about some others senseandsensibility Dec 2012 #28
Now Harry_Scrote Dec 2012 #30
Super K & R! SoapBox Dec 2012 #31
AMEN!!!! teewrex Dec 2012 #32
A big hand and a big rec for Reverend Al! Brigid Dec 2012 #34
The problem with this headline is that it ignors the fact that the 99% have done ALL ReallyIAmAnOptimist Dec 2012 #40
That is a really excellent point mindwalker_i Dec 2012 #41
Not only did we not SHARE in the prosperity, woo me with science Dec 2012 #43
Revs got a point. DaniDubois Dec 2012 #44
FuckinA Al! progressoid Dec 2012 #45
Good shot, Al. moondust Dec 2012 #46
Share in the sacrifice? They need to sacrifice their freedom behind bars! ErikJ Dec 2012 #47
YES!!!!!!! Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #50
The system is rigged so the rich get richer no matter what liberal N proud Dec 2012 #53
Good question. He should ask his buddy in the Whitehouse to commit this. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #54
Profound question indeed. burnsei sensei Dec 2012 #55
Tell It Rev !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #56
My thoughts exactly. Every time I hear about sacrifice, I ask when Cleita Dec 2012 #58
"Lately" Al seems to comes up with simple to the point statements former-republican Dec 2012 #61
A fucking men, Rev.... WCGreen Dec 2012 #63
The Lessons we learned from Romney's tax return stuffmatters Dec 2012 #65
Hey, I second Cleita's suggestion. love_katz Dec 2012 #66
$100 Billion Revenue Lost Per Year Due to Corporate Off Shoring Iggy Dec 2012 #67
agreed. are you listening president obama? nt tomp Dec 2012 #69
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