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MineralMan

(147,938 posts) Mon Sep 30, 2024, 01:46 PM Sep 30

I Think We Waited Way Too Long to Fix Climate Change [View all]

That's what I think. We still need to do whatever we can as a society to slow down the disaster, but the last few years seem to have demonstrated that we've tipped over an edge.

On an individual basis, I think each of us is going to have to evaluate the local situation and make a decision of whether to stay or go somewhere else. I believe it has now come to that.

You can only rebuild so many times after natural disasters. Florida appears to have reached that point of no return. Other states also seem to be experiencing conditions that are steadily worsening.

Everywhere is affected, thought. We have weird off and on droughts here in Minnesota. My old home state, California and its surrounding states are deep into a heat wave cycle that is going to be a huge challenge if it continues.

Time to re-evaluate, folks. Take a good look (after voting in November) and see what you think you'll be looking forward to over the next decade. Are things going to be manageable? Might insurance not be available to you? Take a good look. You might need to make a change of direction.

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I Think We Waited Way Too Long to Fix Climate Change [View all] MineralMan Sep 30 OP

A consideration... 2naSalit Sep 30 #1

Well, yes, but that is now the past. MineralMan Sep 30 #5

I do agree... 2naSalit Sep 30 #15

Well, it sounds like you're thinking and planning. MineralMan Sep 30 #16

Indeed... 2naSalit Sep 30 #22

Gotcha. MineralMan Sep 30 #24

I've moved to Panama. Tom Dyer Sep 30 #51

From the Climate Change Knowledge Portal: True Dough Sep 30 #52

Liking my odds Tom Dyer Sep 30 #61

Jimmy Carter warned us about 45 years ago, but framed it as an energy crisis csziggy Sep 30 #43

At this point we might need to think seriously about geoengineering solutions RidinWithHarris Sep 30 #2

OK. Perhaps so. I haven't seen any sign of interest in that MineralMan Sep 30 #9

Nope RidinWithHarris Sep 30 #12

It will never be enough Diraven Sep 30 #42

No, it would never be enough *by itself* RidinWithHarris Sep 30 #62

A lot of people want to keep pretending... Think. Again. Sep 30 #3

I'm not talking about some new neighborhood, actually. MineralMan Sep 30 #8

An immediate, massive build-out of non-CO2 emitting power generation... Think. Again. Sep 30 #23

Well, I'm afraid I'm in no position to do any of that. MineralMan Sep 30 #25

It's "WE", my friend, WE are responsible for mitigating the harm WE have caused. Think. Again. Sep 30 #26

We want people to reduce usage of fossil fuels, but then demand the oil companies lower gas prices MichMan Sep 30 #34

That's why I said "forced". Think. Again. Sep 30 #36

Don't see any politician demanding we substantially raise gas taxes any time soon, do you? MichMan Sep 30 #38

Nope, I haven't seen us doing ANYTHING to fight climate change at all. Think. Again. Sep 30 #40

The effects of climate change won't be uniform around the world Kaleva Sep 30 #68

And none of it will be predictable, and none of it will be stable. Think. Again. Sep 30 #72

Models can predict Kaleva Oct 1 #79

Oh yes, and unfortunately... Think. Again. Oct 1 #82

I don't think it would have made a difference Kaleva Oct 1 #87

That's definitely true... Think. Again. Oct 2 #91

I'm glad I'm pretty old. Lunabell Sep 30 #4

The very first life decision I made having to do with all this MineralMan Sep 30 #11

Same here. gay texan Sep 30 #28

We "Stopped at 2." 3Hotdogs Sep 30 #49

People were. Tom Dyer Sep 30 #57

I've been saying this for years. And that has been, and still is... ananda Sep 30 #6

Yes Kaleva Sep 30 #69

I agree. I'm approaching my sell by date and have been taking selfish comfort in the thought that... surfered Sep 30 #7

I think these weather events are a lesson for the world Johnny2X2X Sep 30 #10

Yes. We're seeing some very obvious wake-up calls. MineralMan Sep 30 #13

I wish you were right Johnny2X2X Sep 30 #27

We never even tried to fix it. maxsolomon Sep 30 #14

Well, lip service was given, to some degree. MineralMan Sep 30 #19

People constantly fight it. jimfields33 Sep 30 #39

High gas prices would make EV much more appealing, yet we demanded the oil companies lower them MichMan Sep 30 #44

When I saw gas prices hit $5.00 in 2008, I knew Obama would win. LeftInTX Oct 2 #89

We have waited too long cksmithy Sep 30 #17

I hope, for your grandchildren's sake, you're right. MineralMan Sep 30 #20

I am Californian born and still here. cksmithy Sep 30 #32

And bdamomma Sep 30 #74

I've been in California over 40 years Retrograde Sep 30 #77

Personal solutions Cirsium Sep 30 #18

Read some of my other posts in the thread. MineralMan Sep 30 #21

Understood Cirsium Sep 30 #35

I'm 80. You may remember this from the 60's Ping Tung Sep 30 #37

If you want a chance or your children to have a chance, Kaleva Sep 30 #71

That will never happen Cirsium Sep 30 #78

Some regions will become more suitable for human habitation Kaleva Oct 1 #80

I remember President Jimmy Carter's warnings..he even put solar panels up on the White House Deuxcents Sep 30 #29

There is no technological fix for humanity and habitat Earth except PufPuf23 Sep 30 #30

Well said. Think. Again. Sep 30 #58

Well, of course Easterncedar Sep 30 #31

The best time was 30 years ago; the second best time is now. This... NNadir Sep 30 #33

Agreed. We're screwn. :( GPV Sep 30 #41

I'm happy to be settled in Pittsburgh and I plan to stay here FakeNoose Sep 30 #45

And nobody gets to say that "We had NO IDEA!??!!" hatrack Sep 30 #46

wow! what debbie and dan downers! et tu Sep 30 #47

I agree. Things will quickly get much worse before they slowly get slightly better. Oopsie Daisy Sep 30 #48

And we could've had good solid climate change leadership from Al Gore... DSandra Sep 30 #50

Al Gore gave a speech at St John The Divine Cathedral when his book came out. electric_blue68 Sep 30 #67

We ignored caring for Mother Earth because we weren't prepared to be "inconvenienced". rubbersole Sep 30 #53

It was just too inconvenient. flvegan Sep 30 #54

If we somehow miraculously got to zero emissions now, it would take decades... Wounded Bear Sep 30 #55

Adapt or die BeneteauBum Sep 30 #56

I have been saying for awhile now that it's time to prepare Kaleva Sep 30 #70

Moi Aussi BeneteauBum Sep 30 #73

The Earth is not going away-we are! Just_Vote_Dem Sep 30 #59

George Carlin bdamomma Sep 30 #75

I hope you are incorrect. Tweedy Sep 30 #60

I think we'll muddle through this if we ignore the assholes who believe billions of us must suffer and die... hunter Sep 30 #63

Maybe the uber wealthy should park their private jets MichMan Sep 30 #64

You are right. applegrove Sep 30 #65

I started Marching for Renewables in Washington DC in the Mid-80's! Not Enough People PAID Attention. :( electric_blue68 Sep 30 #66

Neocon planning envisions a southern border wall Ponietz Sep 30 #76

I think you may be right. Blue_Roses Oct 1 #81

Have you ever seen the last timeframe of the movie Cloud Atlas? nt Persondem Oct 1 #83

No, I haven't. Should I? MineralMan Oct 1 #84

It's an interesting, if somewhat flawed movie. It has a great cast, and tries to portray Persondem Oct 1 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 1 #86

All human activity is harmful to the planet, Ron Green Oct 1 #88

Changes in lifestyle are required such as eating less or no meat JI7 Oct 2 #90